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(07-31-2013, 04:35 PM)cidermaid Wrote: I have no problem with making a fool of myself and being seen to be poetically incompetant, but i would hate to think that i was leading someone astray with false or wrong information.
For the most part critique and poetry are relative to the observers and therefore short of some grievous error on the part of the mentor, I can hardly foresee a reason for anyone to step in.
Also, with all due respect to the idea and the willingness to dedicate time to helping others, this idea needs to be simplified and packaged for n00bs only.
Anyone who can read a poem can tell the OP what they liked and didn't like about it, but n00bs get scared of sounding stupid and sometimes it prevents their posting. imo that is the only demographic you will snare with these exercises -- My reasoning is that someone who already gives critique and would like to improve will/can do so by simply reading poetry and continuing to practice giving feedback-- and anyone who gives bullshit feedback because they never truly read the poem to begin with will probably never change and will certainly never participate in any exercises like this.
All jmo ofc-- and again, respect for doing something. 
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Mostly I was thinking of the elements of poetic forms and meter.
As well as being number dyslexic I supect myself of being meter blind and deaf as I currently really struggle to pin it down.
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(08-01-2013, 12:54 AM)Wildcard Wrote: (07-31-2013, 04:35 PM)cidermaid Wrote: I have no problem with making a fool of myself and being seen to be poetically incompetant, but i would hate to think that i was leading someone astray with false or wrong information.
For the most part critique and poetry are relative to the observers and therefore short of some grievous error on the part of the mentor, I can hardly foresee a reason for anyone to step in.
Also, with all due respect to the idea and the willingness to dedicate time to helping others, this idea needs to be simplified and packaged for n00bs only.
I find this statement interesting. The site I 'stole' the idea from demands a demonstration of skill and proficiency before you are allowed into it - in writing, critiquing and revising. There is also a pretty big queue of candidate that would like to participate. Is there a reason you think only the opposite would work?
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(08-01-2013, 09:35 AM)milo Wrote: Is there a reason you think only the opposite would work?
I gave my reasoning, but I have been wrong before and often jmo and just trying to help.
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(08-01-2013, 09:39 AM)Wildcard Wrote: (08-01-2013, 09:35 AM)milo Wrote: Is there a reason you think only the opposite would work?
I gave my reasoning, but I have been wrong before and often jmo and just trying to help.
well, on the other site, the idea is is 1 - to get beyond the basic experience of -here is my poem, here are a couple things I don't like about it to a far more in depth 1 on 1 experience and 2 to possibly get the writing to the next level.
Like I said when I first mentioned the concept, I don't know if it will work here, but I think it would be pointless on n00bs that weren't already familiar with all of the basic concepts. You can get the basic grammar/spell-check feed back in the forums we have now.
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can i suggest the discussion (which is valid) go to the poetry discussion forum so as to not dilute this one, which isn't a discussion forum per say
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(08-01-2013, 10:15 AM)billy Wrote: can i suggest the discussion (which is valid) go to the poetry discussion forum so as to not dilute this one, which isn't a discussion forum per say
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(08-01-2013, 10:23 AM)milo Wrote: (08-01-2013, 10:15 AM)billy Wrote: can i suggest the discussion (which is valid) go to the poetry discussion forum so as to not dilute this one, which isn't a discussion forum per say
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''Per se'', you mean. It's Latin.
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(08-02-2013, 07:03 AM)abu nuwas Wrote: (08-01-2013, 10:23 AM)milo Wrote: (08-01-2013, 10:15 AM)billy Wrote: can i suggest the discussion (which is valid) go to the poetry discussion forum so as to not dilute this one, which isn't a discussion forum per say
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''Per se'', you mean. It's Latin.
I thought he was calling me Percy (again). Who knew billy spoke Latin?
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