how far do you go?

[billy]

a general discussion about standards, do you sunbathe in the garden topless for instance? do you smack the kids if you have them. do you swear, if so how much. what do you do that other;s would think that's just to much.

[abu nuwas]

I do sunbathe topless; even though women are peeking from windows, and cracks in the fence. After all, it costs me nothing, and if they get pleasure from it...why be parsimonious?

I do have children, but slapping them would invite retaliation.

Swearing is a bit cuntish, I think.

I do care what others think-- it is arrogant not to -- but it depends on who the others are.

How about you, Billy? You a spanker----no, spankee?

[just mercedes]

I sunbathe nude when I can, but have to feel sorry for those who may bear witness to my no longer young and definitely sagging superstructure.

Never had children, so smacking them was never a consideration. I do enjoy a mild spanking though, at times...

Fucking Abu, saying cunt like that. That's just fucked.

I care what others think to some extent - for example, I wear clean clothes, have haircuts and visit the dentist etc. Unless they're paying my wages I pay little attention to advice though.

[abu nuwas]

Dentists....that is pushing out the envelope. But the takingadvice/ not caring thing is an interesting one. There is something sad about doing stuff because others do, or to keep up with the Jones's, yet not to care is to have a low opinion of people, and to assume that you cannot pick up insights from the most improbable places. Tricky one.

[Keith]

If I found something of value I would keep it, never been caught shop lifting, I hide behind towels to get changed on the beach, swear for effect, I like a lickle drink and a lickle smoke. Have always used violence to control my children, moderate that is, they could both beat the crap out of me now. Love having ego massages, cry at most films, need to be licked...sorry liked....err fuck it, licked.

[just mercedes]

Dentists....that is pushing out the envelope. But the takingadvice/ not caring thing is an interesting one. There is something sad about doing stuff because others do, or to keep up with the Jones's, yet not to care is to have a low opinion of people, and to assume that you cannot pick up insights from the most improbable places. Tricky one.

I find I pick up more insights from my reading than I do from my socializing. I guess it's difficult to have conversations with intelligent people if you don't go out much. Except - oh of course, the internet - which brings me to you, Abu, so of course, I do respond to insights internetically.

Of course, as in the outside world, online we pick and choose our sparring partners with care.

[billy]

I do sunbathe topless; even though women are peeking from windows, and cracks in the fence. After all, it costs me nothing, and if they get pleasure from it...why be parsimonious?

I do have children, but slapping them would invite retaliation.

Swearing is a bit cuntish, I think.

I do care what others think-- it is arrogant not to -- but it depends on who the others are.

How about you, Billy? You a spanker----no, spankee?

i'd expect nothing less from you

for me, an expletive is a non expletive, swearing comes 2nd nature to me. i can be very creative when i swear. i have a nasty habit of letting people know i know they're looking and judging me without trying to be seen. for instance; when out and about in the Philippines with addy (who is very good looking, and young) i get some sly stares, those accusatory dirty old bastard stares. i loudly say hello, and smile at them in a way that lets them know i know what they're thinking. i like to confront prejudice head on and publicly. (ask addy )

i have walloped my kids, what can i say, they're kids, they deserved it
my eldest would put cage fighters to shame. she was the cock (best fighter) in her school, including the boys, she once threatened me with clenched fists, she hasn't done so since.

i'm a brash loudmouthed person but i could never go naked. i could definitely watch JM sunbathing without any shame though

i could never allow myself to be spanked though i have in my time spanked others, though not in a persistent or hard way, an odd slap maybe, (is that spanking) i used to spank the pony 4 times a day if that counts .

i too care what people think but not to the extent i lose sleep over it.

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If I found something of value I would keep it, never been caught shop lifting, I hide behind towels to get changed on the beach, swear for effect, I like a lickle drink and a lickle smoke. Have always used violence to control my children, moderate that is, they could both beat the crap out of me now. Love having ego massages, cry at most films, need to be licked...sorry liked....err fuck it, licked.

i'm of those people who think everyone's a thief one way or another. (are you female? if so, i have a tongue waiting for you ) i was an habitual one in my youth though i did have standards. my life has been a violent one on many levels by many standards, but i know violence should only be used as a tool against bad men and naughty kids .
i have no problem with people being tortured, specially people like the hook who has just been sent to the usa. why they sent him there instead of putting a cap in him i don't know. (i think we're too soft on perpetrators of violent crimes.) i'd gladly garotte a convicted child molester. i see no harm in mild drugs. (i class coke as mild) heroine dealers should be shot.

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I sunbathe nude when I can, but have to feel sorry for those who may bear witness to my no longer young and definitely sagging superstructure.

Never had children, so smacking them was never a consideration. I do enjoy a mild spanking though, at times...

Fucking Abu, saying cunt like that. That's just fucked.

I care what others think to some extent - for example, I wear clean clothes, have haircuts and visit the dentist etc. Unless they're paying my wages I pay little attention to advice though.

pics or gtfo

i wear clean clothes when going out, in the house it's shorts and tshirt. (climate here is hot) i shave twice a week unless going out for a meal etc. basically i'm a scruffy bastard. bathe everyday, it's either that or rot in the heat.

abu's always been a cunt for saying words like that

I've always wandered what a mild spanking was?

i was had a woman handcuff me to the headboard while i was asleep. she sort of panicked when i broke it apart to get free

i like making others feel uncomfortable in public. they often smile of laugh but i know they're secretly pissed at me. if somebody points out that i'm doing something thats not proper; i do it all the more.

[abu nuwas]

I am by nature haughty and arrogant; it is not an attractive trait, and over the years, I have sought to rein it in. I suppose it springs from being certain that I am right. Yet I have missed much that way --for example, someone with the meanest of intellects may nevertheless utter something which either itself is enlightening, or triggers mental processes in me, which never would have occurred had I been left to myself.

On the net, I try to avoid complete idiots, but every so often, something tells me I cannot let a piece of nonsense pass..... And the internet really is a wonderful toy...providing one selects one's interlocutors judiciously.

[billy]

i've mellowed and i'm sure i like the process, though at times i wish for the good old days,
it's hard to avoid complete idiots on the net
for some stupid reason i have to be right. a nasty flaw indeedy, yet i am quick to play saint and agree i was wrong...but on;y if i gain some higher ground by doing so .
i hate people of polictical correctness. bring back the golly wogs for children. i'm sure black kids kick the shit out of white dolls

[Leanne]

a general discussion about standards, do you sunbathe in the garden topless for instance? do you smack the kids if you have them. do you swear, if so how much. what do you do that other;s would think that's just to much.

No to the sunbathing, that's just inviting melanomas in uncomfortable places... I have been known to hang the laundry out naked, but now we have elderly neighbours and that's just cruel.

My kids get a smack if they deserve it, but fortunately they deserve it less and less frequently. Sometimes, there's nothing else for it -- "time out" is a wank.

I never swear. You'll all back me up on that, surely?

I don't smoke, NEVER steal, always take my rental DVDs back on time, have never had a speeding ticket, don't touch illicit drugs and have never had a one night stand -- or a fling, for that matter. I still consider myself a subversive. I keep the little rules while I'm working on breaking the really big fuckers, the ones that politicians think will protect them forever.

[billy]

in my youth i never stopped stealing not bragging just being honest if wdidn't have the proverbial nail in it, it belonged to me.
i was never subversive but somehow i could undermine a lot off stuff. i was an habitual smoker but wasn't they all
i always went that little bit to far in protecting the innocent, even to my own detriment. though i've only ever come off worse in a fight with the police, all the other times i rocked oh and the one single time i bullied someone...you guessed it, they turned brave at just the right time and made me look like a prick. they later forgave me and we became long time friends. (on a later occasion however i did kick the shit out of him (he'd actually became a bully; i'd released the monster in him.

[Leanne]

You just keep that bloody monster hidden where it belongs, thanks very much.

[billy]

i used to start arguments with bullies and get to that point of no return, i used to think 'why am i doing, this once it got to that point, wishing i'd just kept quiet. i was a natural prankster, specially on strangers.

[Leanne]

I used to have no choice but to argue with bullies... my little sister would piss them off (as she pissed me off) and then say, "my sister will beat you up." So I did, but all the time I was wondering why I bothered saving her miserable arse

[billy]

my eldest daughter was like that.
and my youngest was always getting her in fights.
secretly my eldest loved it, she was one of those invincible kids

[Leanne]

I didn't lose... but I didn't feel great about it either. Well, that's not true... some of those little bastards deserved it.

[billy]

has anyone done anything really bad? i bet most have.
i have to say i've done thing's i'm too ashamed to speak of here

[popeye]

yeah I joined the pig pen but i'm proud of it!!

[Leanne]

Jeez... here I was thinking I was respectable and I forgot about that one!

Hanging my head in shame now... a bit...

[popeye]

well have another wine and it will all be better in the morning, cheers