How Shakespeare?
#21
As Neil Gaiman and much of the '80s British Comic Book writers were using Chaos Magick as registers for their pantheons and worldviews, you are stating here that you are a Magickian.

American Gods and Twin Peaks: The Return aired simultaneously, pretty much, in 2017. Since I didn't have the channels they aired on, I had to have adventures to find places to watch them as they aired. I always used such intensities to add to my personal myth. The Mist, a Stephen King series, was also airing.

The attitudes toward King in reference to Gaiman vs Bloom also come to mind here. I'm an associative thinker and liver. My liver, as you can probably see coming, likes to associate with alcohol. Then again, everything is associated to everything else. Emphasis on "again".

Damn, the word Emphasis gets me horny.
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#22
(02-01-2026, 09:11 AM)rowens Wrote:  As Neil Gaiman and much of the '80s British Comic Book writers were using Chaos Magick as registers for their pantheons and worldviews, you are stating here that you are a Magickian.

American Gods and Twin Peaks: The Return aired simultaneously, pretty much, in 2017. Since I didn't have the channels they aired on, I had to have adventures to find places to watch them as they aired. I always used such intensities to add to my personal myth. The Mist, a Stephen King series, was also airing.

The attitudes toward King in reference to Gaiman vs Bloom also come to mind here. I'm an associative thinker and liver. My liver, as you can probably see coming, likes to associate with alcohol. Then again, everything is associated to everything else. Emphasis on "again".

Damn, the word Emphasis gets me horny.

I never actually saw American Gods as I, as well, don't have the means either to find it or to view it but I did read the novel along with its much better cousin Anansi Boys (as well as, probably, everything else he wrote as far back as his stint with Vertigo during the Sandman run)>  I have somehow seen Coraline which I deem as well - excellent in story, presentation and contribution to the mythos.

King is another one - an almost untouched legend of thought for many years but it feels like maybe his image is tarnishing in the current age - like he lived longer than was expected which is, of course, possibly true.  I read the Mist in a book of short stories (Night Shift maybe) but that is another one that I have never seen the movie.  I know they made another movie loosely based off one of the stories from that book - maybe lawnmower man.  I did see that but I remember it not being very much like the story but only that it was much better - the story was trash.
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#23
I saw Running Man remake recently. Some of Stephen King's later short stories are better, as far as I'm concerned. I like the details around his books and movies. I have often went to sleep naming off all the movies of his I've seen. I read American Gods. I was interested in one sentence that if read out of context states: Shadow is an Indian. Something like that.

When I was in school, I knew a girl in art class, and I had her make the figures from Morpheus' Castle for me. The Sandman tv series made John Constantine into Jenna Coleman. Don't think that I haven't noticed that she looks like an older version of Emilia Jones. Jenna Coleman, not the girl from art class. I wonder if they casted her based on sharing initials.

Also, in relation to your poem that has just been bumped, I find Morpheus a suitable replacement for Apollo in my pantheon.
Besides, when it comes to Apollo, I wouldn't know him from Adam.

My old lady's a real number. She's the only Geometress I know who consistently uses a nutcracker for a divider.

My old lady's a real card. If she's not a queen of spades, she most really be into chocolate milk.
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#24
(02-01-2026, 09:29 AM)rowens Wrote:  I saw Running Man remake recently. Some of Stephen King's later short stories are better, as far as I'm concerned. I like the details around his books and movies. I have often went to sleep naming off all the movies of his I've seen. I read American Gods. I was interested in one sentence that if read out of context states: Shadow is an Indian. Something like that.

I read most Stephen King when I was young - I thought he was the greatest writer in history when I was 12.  His prose stylings were enjoyable, narrative, character development and ideation.  As I got older a lot of it seems over written, bloated and sensationalistic.  The Dark Tower series will always have a soft spot in my heart.  i tried to get my daughters into them when they were in school which is when they informed me that he cannot write female characters and that every time he tries they are shallow archetypes subservient to men  (I know this isn't 100% true as I remember a few stories it definitely wasn't.

One of the newer ones I read - 1912 or something about a farmer killing his wife and becoming consumed by it as misfortune piled up around him - I think is one of his best though.

Quote:When I was in school, I knew a girl in art class, and I had her make the figures from Morpheus' Castle for me. The Sandman tv series made John Constantine into Jenna Coleman. Don't think that I haven't noticed that she looks like an older version of Emilia Jones. Jenna Coleman, not the girl from art class. I wonder if they casted her based on sharing initials.

Also, in relation to your poem that has just been bumped, I find Morpheus a suitable replacement for Apollo in my pantheon.
Besides, when it comes to Apollo, I wouldn't know him from Adam.

yah, in my poem, Apollo was the name of a lion - named as such because his mantle resembled the sun

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My old lady's a real number. She's the only Geometress I know who consistently uses a nutcracker for a divider.

My old lady's a real card. If she's not a queen of spades, she most really be into chocolate milk.

I read that as "queer of Spades" the first time through and had to really think about it.  Too bad, that would have been interesting.
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#25
"i tried to get my daughters into them when they were in school which is when they informed me that he cannot write female characters and that every time he tries they are shallow archetypes subservient to men."

Yes, Misery is especially bad about that.


(As a Magickian, did you set up that one?)
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#26
(02-01-2026, 10:13 AM)rowens Wrote:  "i tried to get my daughters into them when they were in school which is when they informed me that he cannot write female characters and that every time he tries they are shallow archetypes subservient to men."

Yes, Misery is especially bad about that.


(As a Magickian, did you set up that one?)

I feel like we have drifted too far from the original topic at this point and we should either steer back in the general direction of Shakespeare or continue any further discussion in the coffee lounge
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#27
Did you read Camille Paglia's chapter on Shakespeare in Sexual Personae?
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#28
(02-01-2026, 10:18 AM)rowens Wrote:  Did you read Camille Paglia's chapter on Shakespeare in Sexual Personae?

no, I try to restrict my reading to fiction and technical documents (and poetry which is only good if it's fiction anyway) and what I read online - and when I say online I mean usually research.

I also mostly avoid Shakespeare as he is a chore for modern readers though you know they made a lot of his plays into movies and while I don't really watch movies I did see Titus which was pretty good (I thought) though I suppose you could make as strong an argument that it was terrible and i couldn't defend my position other than that I thought it was fantastic.
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#29
William Shakespeare was in The Sandman.
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#30
(02-01-2026, 11:26 AM)rowens Wrote:  William Shakespeare was in The Sandman.

Feels like something you could put on a billboard and march in protest on Parliament
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#31
They should have made Shakespeare a Muslim.
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#32
(02-01-2026, 12:08 PM)rowens Wrote:  They should have made Shakespeare a Muslim.

I think he was a Muslim - he just didn't broadcast it - a man quietly keeping his faith to himself
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#33
Some say that he was whatever he was writing about at the time.

What time, Anthony Hopkins was black. I'm not kidding, I saw it. He was black as Will Smith coaches tennis.
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