The PigPen's Resplendent Kaffeeklatsch

[CRNDLSM]

Can we move his new posts to the sewer and tell him how to access the sewer?

[milo]

Maybe he will have AI write his next poem. It literally couldn’t get any worse. And I say that assuming we will see him in a couple days as Isaac or whatnot

Yes, he can't post anymore in this current incarnation (revoked).  I left him alive because I thought it might take longer to make a new sock if he can at least satisfy his curiosity about what is being said.
 Even trolls can become addicted to the refresh button (the way pyromaniacs like to hide in the crowd to watch everything burn).  

I hope we do not have too many incarnations before he grows bored and moves on.

It isn't even the cretinism that bother me - that can be entertaining at time.  His poetry is just so awful though.  You would think 2 weeks of Reddit poetry would have inured me but - nope.

Maybe he will read a few of the discussion threads and accidentally learn something 

I would take even a dirty limerick at this point.

(ok, I would love a dirty limerick tbh)

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I guess he can still edit his posts so he is trying to communicate with us through post edits?

It is like the first season of Stranger Things when Will communicates through the lights.

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oh no! The "No Permissions Page".

<sigh>

[Quixilated]

I moved the poem to the sewer with a redirect so hopefully he can find it.
I don't care if he edits his posts (keeps him occupied and thus not making new socks). I only suspended his posting because he was posting insults on other poetry threads, which is my ultimate taboo and now he is on my shit list.

[milo]

Can we move his new posts to the sewer and tell him how to access the sewer?

You know, we had a troll (can't remember his name) and billy made it so he could ONLY access the sewer and he stuck around for like 6MONTHS!!!  just communicating to us through the sewer.  It was pretty funny.

[Quixilated]

Can we move his new posts to the sewer and tell him how to access the sewer?

You know, we had a troll (can't remember his name) and billy made it so he could ONLY access the sewer and he stuck around for like 6MONTHS!!!  just communicating to us through the sewer.  It was pretty funny.

 Brilliant! I don't know how to do that or I would.

[busker]

This latest troll is Shem trying a different approach
Please don’t just ban him, purge him.
And I would urge once again a scorched earth strategy, extending the purge to the original Shem avatar

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And newbies should be restricted to posting in Basic till they’ve passed the sanity test

[milo]

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This latest troll is Shem trying a different approach
Please don’t just ban him, purge him.
And I would urge once again a scorched earth strategy, extending the purge to the original Shem avatar

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And newbies should be restricted to posting in Basic till they’ve passed the sanity test

I doubt it is Shem, just someone butt hurt because they now lack agency- the trick is to ban the ip address

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Also, I would hate to see us limit the functionality of the workshop just because we had a troll

[Quixilated]

Almost everyone these days uses a vpn, so banning the ip address doesn't stop them.  Elijah11 does not have the same ip as Dimitryet. 

There isn't a way to restrict the newbies to basic.  At least not an ability I have.  And based on how few newbies bother to read any of our other rules, I doubt any would see or heed a written request to stay only in one forum. 

It is annoying to have trolls.  It's annoying that they can now bypass bans so easily.  There isn't much we can do, but making things harder for all newbies isn't a good answer.  We are trying to grow the site.  Making it harder to join won't help us do that.

[milo]

Almost everyone these days uses a vpn, so banning the ip address doesn't stop them.  Elijah11 does not have the same ip as Dimitryet. 

There isn't a way to restrict the newbies to basic.  At least not an ability I have.  And based on how few newbies bother to read any of our other rules, I doubt any would see or heed a written request to stay only in one forum. 

It is annoying to have trolls.  It's annoying that they can now bypass bans so easily.  There isn't much we can do, but making things harder for all newbies isn't a good answer.  We are trying to grow the site.  Making it harder to join won't help us do that.

Yah, I was thinking that about the ips right after I wrote it but then I questioned how much work someone would really put in to get around a ban at a poetry site? 

Meh - it’s not like we get a lot of trolls and this guy was mostly harmless. I guess we will see if he returns tonight. He is definitely ESL which is unfortunate, I bet he could belt out some real zingers in whatever native language he speaks instead of this inane claptrap

[Quixilated]

I don't even know if I would classify this one as a troll. I don't think he originally came to cause problems. I think he was serious about his poetry, and I think some of the problem might have been a language barrier complicating the communication. However and also, he was clearly nuts.  Language barrier or not, the torrents of scripture and other obscure quotes combined with accusations that we are all evil and that our dislike of his poetry is equivalent, apparently, to siding with the evil Queen Jezebel, was not something that could have been cured with gentle guidance or patience. Maybe he considered himself to be a prophet of some kind? (He mentioned the "Word of Poetry" often and I wondered if that was meant to refer to himself?) Either way, I don't take kindly to being repeatedly called a dog.

As to zingers, I did feel obliged to read (skim) most of his rantings (as part of the compilation of evidence for his trial and punishment) and found a few quotes that I thought were funny.  Maybe they are only funny to me. Maybe you have to read them with just the right mental voice.  They're in the box below:

"These pigs are so fat they urgently need someone's place, just like ogres and vampires too."    

"And they're shouting in the street about their lack of space through their "microphone" of legion of horses."  

"The parable of the pearls and the pigs also mentions dogs. Dogs that bark, or dogs that hunt. Or even the Hound of the Baskervilles when one pretends to appreciate the beauty of butterflies (in Conan Doyle's story). Indeed, the owner of the Hound of Baskerville in the story had a vampiric portrait of himself and his evil ancestor from the beginning of time."  

Quoting Gregory, I guess?  This, by the way, is the quote that I can't help reading in "Miette voice."
"What is this? And you, Maximus, dare to write? You dare to write? What shamelessness! In this you've already surpassed even the dogs."  

"the Word of Poetry became flesh. He has only two cheeks."  

"But I've posted the same poem on other forums with only likes and positive comments so far."

"But here it's like a bowling alley. You're all trying to provoke me."

"like an unworthy communion with the Word of Poetry"  

"And banish yourself from the Book of Life. It's much more serious. Like I was talking about French films and songs"

"Anyway, you're all bowling together like that?"  

[milo]

"But here it's like a bowling alley. You're all trying to provoke me."

This dude has had some bad run ins at bowling alleys

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Remember that guy gruff? He just made those comments here then went and snipped his one poem off the site and left. What was that about?

[Quixilated]

He didn't explain. I didn't see any obvious negative interactions with members.  Maybe he's a recluse and was trying to be outgoing and then panicked?

[milo]

Yah, maybe

[Quixilated]

In other news ... today the snow caused a 100 car pileup not very far away. I'm so very glad I stayed indoors.

Also, does this kaffeeklatsch make fruit smoothies? Or only coffee?

[milo]

In other news ... today the snow caused a 100 car pileup not very far away.  I'm so very glad I stayed indoors. 

Also, does this kaffeeklatsch make fruit smoothies? Or only coffee?

Smoothies too!  

That’s a lot of cars to pile up, I hope they don’t fall off over

[rayheinrich]

I like the idea of a bowling alley. But since we're poets and all, we shouldn't have the traditional ten pin
with the large ball and three holes you put your fingers in. I think we should go with either duckpin, candlepin,
5 pin, or 9 pin. When I lived in Virginia, there was a duckpin lane within walking distance. Compared to traditional
bowling, the pins are short, fat, and a lot harder to knock over with the small ball that fits in the palm of your hand.
But since this is PigPen's Resplendent Kaffeeklatsch, maybe we should go with Martin Luther's favorite game:
German Kegeln. It's a nine-pin bowling game that is almost identical to the Texas 9-pin I played as a kid because
German immigrants/relatives brought 9-pin Kegeln over to Texas.
... I'm torn between cute fat little duckpins and German tradition. Someone else will have to decide.

[wasellajam]

Harder to knock over doesn't appeal to me so I vote 9 pin. Can we play bocce when the snow clears? I recently gave away an unused set but I can borrow it back. They were lovely. I do have one bowling pin. Just because.

Ugh quix, my current luxury is looking out the window at it and not being out on the road. When I think of the weather I used to drve in it seems nuts.

milo, I told you not to serve coffee in the middle of the night, you never listen.

[milo]

Harder to knock over doesn't appeal to me so I vote 9 pin. Can we play bocce when the snow clears? I recently gave away an unused set but I can borrow it back. They were lovely. I do have one bowling pin. Just because.

Ugh quix, my current luxury is looking out the window at it and not being out on the road. When I think of the weather I used to drve in it seems nuts.

milo, I told you not to serve coffee in the middle of the night, you never listen.

I do listen.  I mostly listen when you say (in the middle of the night) I am going to regret this later but give me a large coffee.

[wasellajam]

Harder to knock over doesn't appeal to me so I vote 9 pin. Can we play bocce when the snow clears? I recently gave away an unused set but I can borrow it back. They were lovely. I do have one bowling pin. Just because.

Ugh quix, my current luxury is looking out the window at it and not being out on the road. When I think of the weather I used to drve in it seems nuts.

milo, I told you not to serve coffee in the middle of the night, you never listen.

I do listen.  I mostly listen when you say (in the middle of the night) I am going to regret this later but give me a large coffee.

Got me there. Good morning.

[milo]

Harder to knock over doesn't appeal to me so I vote 9 pin. Can we play bocce when the snow clears? I recently gave away an unused set but I can borrow it back. They were lovely. I do have one bowling pin. Just because.

Ugh quix, my current luxury is looking out the window at it and not being out on the road. When I think of the weather I used to drve in it seems nuts.

milo, I told you not to serve coffee in the middle of the night, you never listen.

I do listen.  I mostly listen when you say (in the middle of the night) I am going to regret this later but give me a large coffee.

Got me there. Good morning.

Good morning!  You know, this coffee lounge really turned out ok