05-29-2012, 08:32 AM
Rorrick,
Indeed, there are many things that are lacking. Unfortunately cliches in love poetry is not one of them!
This is purely personal, but it seems to me that love poetry's (at least as this starts off as) difficult enough as it is without also saddling it with the center justify and italics of the Gothic romance novels.
It is unfortunate that we have such a small vocabulary when accessing the idiom of romance. I often have to remind myself when I am reading Keats, that for him this was not cliche. I guess it would be a matter of flattery to say building only slightly7 upon the edifices of the ones who had gone before, the later three romantic Poets, created the idiom nearly single-highhandedly.
As Todd notes and I concur, showing rather than telling is generally preferred as it brings a greater depth to the piece, and allows the reader to become emotionally invested. Of course learning to do so is one of those common struggles we fight and never win. It does become stronger towards the end as you transition from romance to grief and determination.
This is a moderately traveled theme. Finally reaching the point in a "love" relation with a self destructive personality that practical problems of survival are forced to be confronted, or else the other removes themse4lves in some way. Despite this( and this is not meant as criticism, just something to maybe give this a little larger scope), I have always found this stance a bit disingenuous. We say we love a person, and this is why we wish them to change, even though we knew from the beginning this is how they are. It just seems that a large portion of these types, are destined for early death,, and I wonder if that is, in some way how that it is suppose to happen, and we are much less loving than we think are by demanding they should alter from a course that they often seem unable to break. It's just a though. Sometimes however, that sort of thing leads us closer to our emotions about it, at a time when we must be doing to opposite. I know that they have little in the way as far as a capacity to love, but I often wonder if they have not robbed us of that also.
Dale
Indeed, there are many things that are lacking. Unfortunately cliches in love poetry is not one of them!
This is purely personal, but it seems to me that love poetry's (at least as this starts off as) difficult enough as it is without also saddling it with the center justify and italics of the Gothic romance novels.
It is unfortunate that we have such a small vocabulary when accessing the idiom of romance. I often have to remind myself when I am reading Keats, that for him this was not cliche. I guess it would be a matter of flattery to say building only slightly7 upon the edifices of the ones who had gone before, the later three romantic Poets, created the idiom nearly single-highhandedly.
As Todd notes and I concur, showing rather than telling is generally preferred as it brings a greater depth to the piece, and allows the reader to become emotionally invested. Of course learning to do so is one of those common struggles we fight and never win. It does become stronger towards the end as you transition from romance to grief and determination.
This is a moderately traveled theme. Finally reaching the point in a "love" relation with a self destructive personality that practical problems of survival are forced to be confronted, or else the other removes themse4lves in some way. Despite this( and this is not meant as criticism, just something to maybe give this a little larger scope), I have always found this stance a bit disingenuous. We say we love a person, and this is why we wish them to change, even though we knew from the beginning this is how they are. It just seems that a large portion of these types, are destined for early death,, and I wonder if that is, in some way how that it is suppose to happen, and we are much less loving than we think are by demanding they should alter from a course that they often seem unable to break. It's just a though. Sometimes however, that sort of thing leads us closer to our emotions about it, at a time when we must be doing to opposite. I know that they have little in the way as far as a capacity to love, but I often wonder if they have not robbed us of that also.
Dale
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.