04-04-2012, 01:18 PM
" In fact, the
case is open, as are all the cases that were, before, closed."
For the people who can't see beyond their noses the "case is closed" for them, I was not saying this in regards to poetry.I was saying it about closed minded people. As with any other art form, their are subtleties that generally take talent, study and time to comprehend. These subtleties tend to be below the level of consciousness of most people, but they are in most regards what separates the great from the good. Humans, by their nature tend to disbelieve that which they can't readily apprehend, the most belligerent posit that because they cannot apprehend it, it in fact does not exists. For them that ends the discussion, i.e. "case closed".
"I do not hold with those who believe a line of poetry says
more than a half page of prose."
Then I would assume you also hold with those who see no difference between a play and a painting. Some would suggest that if the painting were of sufficient quality one could study it for the duration of a play and come away more enlightened than the playgoers, despite the fact the painting takes up far less "space" than does the manuscript of the play, not to mention the overall production. But of course this must be wrong, as space has to be the determining judge of quality, and a half a page is a half a page regardless if it is Coleridge or the readers digest, they must surely be more or less equivalent.
That all art can achieve the same end is not up for debate here. I was not claiming one form as being superior over another. A well written novel can more gently move a person along so that it is not until the end the person realizes he understands something that he had not even previously considered.
There are also those who purposefully misconstrue what is written simply so they may take exception to it; thus allowing them a forum in which to pontificate, which is of course just another form of belligerent closed-mindedness, giving ample illustration of the difference between argument and simple contradiction.
Dale
case is open, as are all the cases that were, before, closed."
For the people who can't see beyond their noses the "case is closed" for them, I was not saying this in regards to poetry.I was saying it about closed minded people. As with any other art form, their are subtleties that generally take talent, study and time to comprehend. These subtleties tend to be below the level of consciousness of most people, but they are in most regards what separates the great from the good. Humans, by their nature tend to disbelieve that which they can't readily apprehend, the most belligerent posit that because they cannot apprehend it, it in fact does not exists. For them that ends the discussion, i.e. "case closed".
"I do not hold with those who believe a line of poetry says
more than a half page of prose."
Then I would assume you also hold with those who see no difference between a play and a painting. Some would suggest that if the painting were of sufficient quality one could study it for the duration of a play and come away more enlightened than the playgoers, despite the fact the painting takes up far less "space" than does the manuscript of the play, not to mention the overall production. But of course this must be wrong, as space has to be the determining judge of quality, and a half a page is a half a page regardless if it is Coleridge or the readers digest, they must surely be more or less equivalent.
That all art can achieve the same end is not up for debate here. I was not claiming one form as being superior over another. A well written novel can more gently move a person along so that it is not until the end the person realizes he understands something that he had not even previously considered.
There are also those who purposefully misconstrue what is written simply so they may take exception to it; thus allowing them a forum in which to pontificate, which is of course just another form of belligerent closed-mindedness, giving ample illustration of the difference between argument and simple contradiction.
Dale
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.

