01-05-2012, 06:48 AM
Sometimes I think that people just like being obtuse in order to have an excuse to rattle on. I think this of course because I expect people to be as mean and evil as I am, although I will concede that is most often not the case, and they are simply innocent: pearly white, as Mac the Knife's Teeth, and in no way are they being obstinate out of meanness, as it would be in my case, but are simply naive when they lump several different topics together and pretend they are all the same. This way one can take a perfectly valid answer to one specific question, and make a great show of how it is not valid over here, even though that answer was never intended for "over here". I say all of this so you will know it is in no way strange that I should respond by saying,
"Oh, well I use to have a cat too, but he was the picture of health and never had any medical problems, which is of course generally the case if you are a responsible pet owner." That is to say, what is or is not moral behavior has not the slightest thing to do with universal truth. That is to say as there are no moral codes that cross all boundaries. Even the most common one, "Don't fuck with the dead" is in no way universal. Universal truth, and codes of behavior are not the same thing, and to draw the conclusion that because there are no universal codes of behavior there is no such thing as universal truth is a specious argument. The second point is the conclusion that an artist purposefully decides to include "universal truth" in his art, as if he in fact has such a choice, which obviously he does not. If universal truth is what makes art great, what artist that had the choice would choose not to include this mysterious universal truth in his art. As I know Ed, I know he is sincere in his arguments, I only use his arguments because they were the latest in this post, they are by no means a sole and isolated example. Being the mean and ill-tempered person that I am, I am given to these fits of irrational apoplexy and sometimes I just spew forth. Sorry about that. Please return to your discussion.
Dale
"Oh, well I use to have a cat too, but he was the picture of health and never had any medical problems, which is of course generally the case if you are a responsible pet owner." That is to say, what is or is not moral behavior has not the slightest thing to do with universal truth. That is to say as there are no moral codes that cross all boundaries. Even the most common one, "Don't fuck with the dead" is in no way universal. Universal truth, and codes of behavior are not the same thing, and to draw the conclusion that because there are no universal codes of behavior there is no such thing as universal truth is a specious argument. The second point is the conclusion that an artist purposefully decides to include "universal truth" in his art, as if he in fact has such a choice, which obviously he does not. If universal truth is what makes art great, what artist that had the choice would choose not to include this mysterious universal truth in his art. As I know Ed, I know he is sincere in his arguments, I only use his arguments because they were the latest in this post, they are by no means a sole and isolated example. Being the mean and ill-tempered person that I am, I am given to these fits of irrational apoplexy and sometimes I just spew forth. Sorry about that. Please return to your discussion.
Dale
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.

