06-01-2011, 10:12 AM
peter;
one of things often asked of a poet is "what does it sound like when spoken"?
often we get an idea of the flow, more so when someone else speaks it, the reason being; we know how it should be spoken regardless of enjambment, someone else may not. jack started a speak your poem forum up, take a go at reading one of your poems there.
todd;
on the we don't know what we write stuff, i agree, often i've written a poem and someones feedback says i like how you mean't to say that by saying something else. the truth is i didn'y knowingly mean to say anything except what i'd written, i'm ashamed to say i usually say thanks for noticing
i think people in general, including wannabe poets (of which i'm one) of assume they know what good poetry is because they've read a sonnet or two, or because they've written a few poems. the truth is they/we don't we learn and read and improve everyday. we only know what we know. an example of how we improve;
put a poem in the drawer, (a finished poem) and in 6 months go back to it. can it know be improved on? of course if you're a gobshite-i'm the greatest poet alive kind of poetaster then no, but if you're the i wanna be a better poet kind of person you'll almost immediate spot at least a couple of things to edit. the reason for that is the fact you've gained knowledge and experience concerning the craft of poetry.
i would also add that one of the best ways to gain some knowledge of the craft is to try and leave solid feedback. not crique as such but what you liked and why. and all the other stuff that can include but isn't just a back pat or a cock wash.
one of things often asked of a poet is "what does it sound like when spoken"?
often we get an idea of the flow, more so when someone else speaks it, the reason being; we know how it should be spoken regardless of enjambment, someone else may not. jack started a speak your poem forum up, take a go at reading one of your poems there.
todd;
on the we don't know what we write stuff, i agree, often i've written a poem and someones feedback says i like how you mean't to say that by saying something else. the truth is i didn'y knowingly mean to say anything except what i'd written, i'm ashamed to say i usually say thanks for noticing
i think people in general, including wannabe poets (of which i'm one) of assume they know what good poetry is because they've read a sonnet or two, or because they've written a few poems. the truth is they/we don't we learn and read and improve everyday. we only know what we know. an example of how we improve;
put a poem in the drawer, (a finished poem) and in 6 months go back to it. can it know be improved on? of course if you're a gobshite-i'm the greatest poet alive kind of poetaster then no, but if you're the i wanna be a better poet kind of person you'll almost immediate spot at least a couple of things to edit. the reason for that is the fact you've gained knowledge and experience concerning the craft of poetry.
i would also add that one of the best ways to gain some knowledge of the craft is to try and leave solid feedback. not crique as such but what you liked and why. and all the other stuff that can include but isn't just a back pat or a cock wash.