02-09-2011, 06:16 PM
"it will also cause the amount of poetry to decline exponentially. "
In the SERIOUS critique section of our forum, of course. But the quality and value of SC would rise, without a doubt. I'd rather produce one excellent poem than 100 mediocre ones, and I think some kick-ass criticism could help elevate the quality of all of our work.
"many are as new to critique as they are to poetry. to make it so only the most well detailed of critiques are allowed in the serious critique forum would be to disallow budding critics a chance to spread their wings."
I'm looking for indications of an effort. It doesn't have to be impeccable or ingenious; it merely needs to display a solid effort. Doesn't the poet deserve that? Doesn't our site deserve that?
"at present we are too few to have restrictions on when and how you can post poetry. as the numbers get higher we will change the requirements. that eventual requirement will be, one poem a day in each section with feedback on at least one poem in the section you post in. but we haven't the numbers to sustain such a rule as of yet. "
I like this and fully support this. It is a great way to go about it.
"as for the parasite thing...how many in depth critiques have you done and how many poems have you posted? not those few liners but real in depth crits of at least two paragraphs or more. (and i'm not having a go so don't let's be arguing about it
)"
Billy, you're correct. I've done one or two at the most, but I'm going to change all of that. I'm going to make sure that each poet gets the level of analysis that I'd like to get. I think it'd be better for all of us.
"it's meant to be a place for everyone."
A place for everyone to GROW, yes. I'm just trying to encourage that. Do not get me wrong, I LOVE this site and I'm very thankful for everyone here. You've all been so instrumental in my development. I'm just trying to do my part and raise a few points.
"i could go through most poems and fault them more than you can imagine and do so with valid statements. that said this place will hopefully also be a place where tolerance is allowed. where people aren't damned if they don't spend a day on a critique."
If a determined poet's poetry is heavily criticized, he will do one of two things-
One: Ignore it
Two: Find legitimacy in it so he can and use it to help the poem's growth.
I think that serious is a place people should stay away from if they don't want some fault-finding. Leave those types of people to mild.
I take back my parasite comment. Sounded a bit too mean-spirited, and I hope you're not offended by anything I'm saying.
And I also support your critic post. Not to say that I'm wrong about that type of a person, but a great critic would be valuable to this site.
In the SERIOUS critique section of our forum, of course. But the quality and value of SC would rise, without a doubt. I'd rather produce one excellent poem than 100 mediocre ones, and I think some kick-ass criticism could help elevate the quality of all of our work.
"many are as new to critique as they are to poetry. to make it so only the most well detailed of critiques are allowed in the serious critique forum would be to disallow budding critics a chance to spread their wings."
I'm looking for indications of an effort. It doesn't have to be impeccable or ingenious; it merely needs to display a solid effort. Doesn't the poet deserve that? Doesn't our site deserve that?
"at present we are too few to have restrictions on when and how you can post poetry. as the numbers get higher we will change the requirements. that eventual requirement will be, one poem a day in each section with feedback on at least one poem in the section you post in. but we haven't the numbers to sustain such a rule as of yet. "
I like this and fully support this. It is a great way to go about it.
"as for the parasite thing...how many in depth critiques have you done and how many poems have you posted? not those few liners but real in depth crits of at least two paragraphs or more. (and i'm not having a go so don't let's be arguing about it
)"Billy, you're correct. I've done one or two at the most, but I'm going to change all of that. I'm going to make sure that each poet gets the level of analysis that I'd like to get. I think it'd be better for all of us.
"it's meant to be a place for everyone."
A place for everyone to GROW, yes. I'm just trying to encourage that. Do not get me wrong, I LOVE this site and I'm very thankful for everyone here. You've all been so instrumental in my development. I'm just trying to do my part and raise a few points.
"i could go through most poems and fault them more than you can imagine and do so with valid statements. that said this place will hopefully also be a place where tolerance is allowed. where people aren't damned if they don't spend a day on a critique."
If a determined poet's poetry is heavily criticized, he will do one of two things-
One: Ignore it
Two: Find legitimacy in it so he can and use it to help the poem's growth.
I think that serious is a place people should stay away from if they don't want some fault-finding. Leave those types of people to mild.
I take back my parasite comment. Sounded a bit too mean-spirited, and I hope you're not offended by anything I'm saying.
And I also support your critic post. Not to say that I'm wrong about that type of a person, but a great critic would be valuable to this site.