wikileaks founder such a nice guy
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(12-15-2010, 02:40 PM)velvetfog Wrote:  
(12-15-2010, 08:55 AM)srijantje Wrote:  http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/201...pe_assange
I found this bit quite interesting:

many have pointed critically to the fact that Assange's accusers didn't immediately go to the police. In fact, one threw a dinner party for him the night after the alleged rape and the other went to breakfast with him the morning after the alleged encounter.

its' common for victims of sex crimes to act normally for a period of time before going to the police. read some psychology reports about it. it even says so in the link you got that tidbit from, sometimes it's best not to post a quote out of context.
Quote: from vf's link
Speaking of myths about "real" victims, many have pointed critically to the fact that Assange's accusers didn't immediately go to the police. In fact, one threw a dinner party for him the night after the alleged rape and the other went to breakfast with him the morning after the alleged encounter. Is this sort of behavior unusual?

It may seem counterintuitive but it is not unusual for a victim to want to normalize the situation. Essentially the victim is prey to self-doubt.

while i agree it's unlikely he raped them i don't have all the facts. and neither does anyone else. to try him in a forum would be ludicrous.

charges were brought. as such he should face them.

if he doesn't it sets a precedent for all women who are victims of sex crimes to be ignored.

at the end of the day. assange has been more less outed as a liar so taking his word would be silly despite what we think.

to judge the women as liars would be silly despite what we think.

for him to expect special treatment over these allegations is also ludicrous.
and a court case concerning people and charges you know nothing about but hearsay makes your suspicions of no-account to the facts, which are; he's been charged with two sex crimes. fact; sex crimes are illegal, fact; if he's not guilty he has a chance of proving it. fact he refused to face his accusers at the proper place, in court.

even slappers have a right to change their minds in sweden or demand the man use a condom. if she demand that and he didn't he's guilty, if one of them asked him to stop and he didn't, he's guilty of rape (under swedish law of course. ) if people think a women doesn't have the right to change her mind during sex then they as far as i can tell condone rape.


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wikileaks founder such a nice guy - by billy - 08-21-2010, 08:04 PM
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