09-23-2010, 02:11 PM
(09-23-2010, 08:05 AM)mr.moobs Wrote: The freedom of an artist is indisputable yes, but the endless reproductions like international drawmohhamad-day? What difference is there between that and 4chans ddossing of mpaa etc? (indeed the idea was concieved by the same anonymous guy whoever he is)The difference is that if you "offend" someone you don't actually prevent them from carrying on with whatever they're doing or want to do, which "anonymous" has done.
(09-23-2010, 08:05 AM)mr.moobs Wrote: It all boils down to this: butthurt peeps resolving to stupidity in order to stir up stuff in lack of better wits and means. And such action, whatever valiant and noble ideals are behind it, always resolve in the same: escalated conflict. Is that how we wish to defend our freedom of speech? Escalating the conflict?It's the only way we CAN defend our freedom of speech. Sure, you could stand on a street corner and demand the right to be able to tell people it's sunny after sunset; but nobody is trying to stop you from doing that so the point would be moot.
(09-23-2010, 08:05 AM)mr.moobs Wrote: Me, I quit voicing my opinion by going to demonstrations (my democratic right!) years ago; There's always at least one idiot determined on escalating the conflict somewhere in the crowd.I'm the same. But I still wouldn't say that people shouldn't be allowed to demonstrate just because some people abuse the right.
(09-23-2010, 08:05 AM)mr.moobs Wrote: Actually, nowadays you cant really demonstrate in denmark. Do a sitdown and the police will paint your face.No, that is absolutely not the reason.
Why is that? Because of assholes yelling stupid and angry shit real loud.
The reason you (and this doesn't just apply to Denmark) can't demonstrate is because officialdom has restricted your rights under the pretext of "protecting" you from people who yell stupid shit. But you don't need protecting from them--they're not the ones preventing you from yelling whatever stupid shit you might want to yell.
Faced with one guy carrying a megaphone and one guy carrying a long baton, it's the second guy you should be wary of.
(09-23-2010, 08:05 AM)mr.moobs Wrote: Shit throwing in the name of freedom? That is what will be the end of our glorious civilization.Better to be allowed to throw shit than not allowed to throw legitimate protest. And make no mistake--they are two sides of exactly the same coin. Allow Governments to dictate who gets to say what and today they'll silence the firebrands, tomorrow they'll silence the idiots, and the day after that they'll silence the Opposition.
"The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool."