wikileaks founder such a nice guy

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so if i found out your cheating on your wife it's best if i tell the world or at leats your family.

Firstly, the analogy isn't a good one. If I was cheating on my wife I wouldn't be doing it while I was being paid by you to represent you.

Even then, it's the cheating that's bad. Revealing bad behavior may well hurt some people but that's the fault of the person who behaved badly in the first place. And telling might well bring about the end of the bad behavior.

if all the truth is best, why do we have an admin section> or even passwords.

We have an admin section for the same reason we have a government--it's a convenient way to deal with threats. But do you really believe your mods and admins are infallible? Or that they should be beyond question?

by checking them out i meant, crossing them out deleting stuff that could lead to deaths. so names of informants etc were not published. something smarmy arse said was done. what i and others are complaining about (i'm not on about the usa gov, so please vf don't make it out i support their stance, if anything i said it before they did ) is the fact that simply removing the names doesn't ensure their saftey. the time lines and, areas and actions are still left in. to correctly remove them i presume would take long that they spent on the first batch.

But it still comes down to how much stuff gets deleted? Maybe the names of the soldiers who fired on the civilians from that helicopter should have been deleted. So their families wouldn't be persecuted. Or...maybe the video should simply have been deleted. So the US army wouldn't be embarrased. Where should the line be drawn? Who draws the line?

who do i believe is empowered to make that decision? whiki leaks themselves could be so empowered.

They're already so empowered--they already made the decision--you just don't agree with their decision. But since you believe that they should be the ones who decide what you should/should not be told then you have no basis for your complaint.

come on lets be honest here. is society any better off fro now a shagged be or even shit and most of it is, that's in the war leaks. sorry but we're not better off. the majority already knows and knew of killed civilians of drones dropping bombs everywhere.

How does the majority know that? Answer: because of leaks.

People have short memories. If the leaks stopped, people would forget, and wouldn't care. Until something they objected to was done to them...and not heard about.

now the leaks that show how much a senator is stealing and from where i like. but as i say. some things in my opinion shouldn't be leaked.

Sure, but you've said above that your opinion is irrelevant. You believe other people should decide what should/should not be leaked.

as for them holding the freedom of expression beacon, who for? you me? sorry no, i can't see any altruistic premise for what they do. not when they go on every news channel telling us why they do it.

You're allowing your personal dislike of a postman to turn you off having a mail system. Wikileaks is a valuable operation providing a valuable service. Whether the frontman is a tosser or not doesn't change that.

sorry but to say they're fighting for the freedom of expression is a crock of shit.

If they're not fighting for it, who is? The people trying to silence them sure as hell ain't.

(in my opinion) if those leaks are their stand on freedom of expression or any other freedom i'll eat my hat. freedoms freedom of free speech, freedom to know whats going on, freedom to do etc. that's what what they;re doing or showing. they're playing games. and as for the right to know. aren't the some thing we have the right not to know. so now the world knows and is better for it. wtf does the world now know? what? and how is it better for knowing it?

Even if you don't believe any good has come out of these particular leaks. You can't deny that some good might come out of future leaks. But if we close down the entire channel because you didn't like one thing they said once, you forgo any possible benefit in future.

More freedom is better than less freedom.