a mosque at ground zero

[altezon]

the cordoba initiative is a group of investors and can be called cordoba group
we are taking about these people as a group not individuals. it is a company. it is a company/organisation called the cordoba initiative it is a a group of people. what you imply is that i can't call it the cordoba organisation either. is that what you're saying. by calling it a group or org i give people the wrong impression?

No. "The Cordoba House group" would do. Or "The Cordoba Initiative".

As I said, you think it's important who the people are,
so it's important that you identify them adequately.

They aren't any of these:

http://cordobagroup.com/
http://www.manta.com/c/mmy1lx9/cordoba-group-inc
http://www.cordobagroup.co.uk/

As far as I can tell, Zahar endorsed the project without claiming to be its representative.
Perhaps no one disputed Zahar's connection because he hadn't claimed any.
Since you're the one shoveling crap on the people involved with the project,
you should be the one to present credible evidence that they deserve it. So look it up.
Your carelessness with details makes your unsupported recollection suspect.

he was the face of it. that it has the endorsement of a known (ex) terrorist is what worries me, that no one connected to the project states. "he's not speaking on our behalf".

that you said or agreed that Zahir endorsed the project is enough for me, i believe you already.

I think I've established your standard of proof for telling us:

i think the problem is that the person or group who want to build/start the mosque at zero has a bad past when it comes to showing peace and harmony. he's said some pretty inflammatory things as well. anyway, i think the idea is good but the person formulating it might not be.

build it by all means but at least make sure those in charge are'nt going to be ex hamas leaders. as leader of hamas he said and did too many nasty things to make him a believable person (his position which is fact, means no source of his hatred for jews and the west is needed, it is and was always a given) to front such a project in such a place. if anything his past makes his motives highly suspect.

zaher is the front man. and he's an ex terrorist recognised as such.

why is non sequiter that i find the front man (spokesperson) for the mosques to be built an ex hammas leader (fact) unsuitable to not only be taking part but to be seemingly orchestrating things under the guise of cordoba, who as of yet has not put any money forward.

the ex hamas leader has been seen to speak on behalf of the soho group on cnn.

All that venom and misinformation because you're not aware of
anyone connected with the Cordoba Initiative having denounced Zahar.

rauf could also be a pawn but that wouldn't fit in with your one minded view that all muslims are good muslims and such a plan to build a mosque at such a place with such a name could'n't have any ulterior motive.

Please, your troll is showing.

the next long drawn put paste is by a jew , he's also an american.

[Shelomo Alfassa is the former US director of Justice for Jews from Arab Countries and a scholar of Judaic life in Islamic Spain. He lives in New York.]

(blah blah blah, Alfassa's diatribe here)

so i say, by all means build a mosque, build anything but do it for the right reasons.

Being American doesn't validate Alfassa's point of view or
justify our interfering with someone's religious freedom.