a mosque at ground zero

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the cordoba group have assets of about 20'000 and are onlt part of a consortium theat have very little cash at hand. though it's called cordoba house it is not owned solely by the cordoba group. soho properties own part of the site and the site lease for the other part. cordoba group is just a really small investor so why you keep touting their name i have no idea. one of the reasons people are against the mosque is in fact the name "cordoba house" as that is a derogotory name where christians are concerned after muslims overran the christians at certian places in spain.
the cordoba group have assets of about 20'000 and are onlt part of a consortium theat have very little cash at hand. though it's called cordoba house it is not owned solely by the cordoba group. soho properties own part of the site and the site lease for the other part. cordoba group is just a really small investor so why you keep touting their name i have no idea.

one of the stepping stones your non owning cordoba group who don't actually own but only have a small investment in the project face is the same as soho properties face. there is a hue and cry for them to say where the cash (100 mil dollars) is coming from.
some are sceptical that it's probably coming from terror organisations. and countries who have axes to grind against the west. while bloomberg and some others say we don't need to know there intellect has to be questioned on the matter. if indeed it does come about that the mosque is funded by terrorist organisations and states they'll look rather silly. to simply say no one needs to know seems a little perturbing.

the ex hamas leader has been seen to speak on behalf of the soho group on cnn. i saw him doing it. my eye sight is bad but i yet to be deemed blind.

Since we're serious, let's be accurate. There is no "Cordoba Group" associated with the project. There's the Cordoba Initiative, which is the group that has purchased the building at 45-47 Park Place. They aren't merely investors:

The Cordoba Initiative, of which Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is founder and chairman, is a multi-faith non-profit organization whose aim is to improve relations between different communities, and in particular between the Muslim world and the United States of America.

http://www.cordobainitiative.org/?q=cont...-questions.

I repeat, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is the founder of the Cordoba House project.
Hamas leader Mahmoud a-Zahar isn't a "front-man" for the project and has nothing to do with it.
Your "source" at http://www.haaretz.com/news/internationa...o-1.308387 doesn't support your assertion that he does,
and neither does the information you lifted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordoba_House

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Your ravings about the muslim peril have been totally unverifiable. If you insist on this argument without supporting it with something other than paranoid speculation, I don't see how you can expect to be taken seriously.

the american gov can build buildings. it is not and has never been against any statutes fr them not to do so. once the building is done they simply say there you are new york, it's yours. they build a building not a church. just a shell building are not and have never been on their own deemed church, mosque or synagogue. before that can happen the ground has to be consecrated. something the gov can't do. people build churches, workmen build building. if this was not the case churches, mosques etc would never get planning permission?

You haven't read the link I gave you on the American separation of church and state. Can't hear ya.

inventing spurious but non the less usuable reasons.

bu·reauc·ra·cy (by-rkr-s)
n. pl. bu·reauc·ra·cies
1.
a. Administration of a government chiefly through bureaus or departments staffed with nonelected officials.
b. The departments and their officials as a group: promised to reorganize the federal bureaucracy.
2.
a. Management or administration marked by hierarchical authority among numerous offices and by fixed procedures: The new department head did not know much about bureaucracy.
b. The administrative structure of a large or complex organization: a midlevel manager in a corporate bureaucracy.
3. An administrative system in which the need or inclination to follow rigid or complex procedures impedes effective action: innovative ideas that get bogged down in red tape and bureaucracy.

all it takes is three separate people to complain about the noise to have a court order placed on them. all it takes is for three or more residents to complain that they are causing more congestion that before. all it takes is an odd lawsuit, one illegality in the contracts, surveys etc, of which they'll be dozens.

i think their should be a multi religious center at ground zero. (at ground zero)
but i doubt cordoba house will become a mosque and if it does i bet it doesn't stay one for long.

Sorry, but you can't define bureaucracy as

if they don't like they kill it with red tape. it's called bureaucracy

... and then switch to a dictionary definition that doesn't include malicious intent.

And your apparent eagerness to see the project fail is repugnant.

Have a look at the face of intolerance:

Wanted the building at 45-47 Park Place declared a landmark "because muslims are evil".
http://www.tribecatrib.com/news/2010/jul...r-wtc.html

Rauf and other muslims are citizens of the United States.

thanks for the debate.

I'm not done with you yet.

btw we're always always sober in the serious discussion forum. otherwise why have it

Good point. Try some serious research.