a mosque at ground zero
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(08-22-2010, 01:46 AM)altezon Wrote:  Bureaucracy only happen when nobody looking.
(08-22-2010, 08:33 AM)billy Wrote:  you mean like proposal 8, either side of the oil moratorium, the gays in uniform with their do but don't tell laws, bureaucracy is at it's very best when it's done in the open. the stop and search laws relating to immigration in Texas. the american healthcare system over the last 20 years. imports and export duties favouring the host country. tax collecting. all slight of hand bureaucracy.
Well, you've broadened the concept of bureaucracy beyond deliberately "killing it with red tape", by which you implied means inventing spurious reasons to kill a legally-permissible building project because the true reasons would conflict with countless constitutional and statutory protections. We don't have a dictatorship, and enough of us are paying attention to prevent it and to bring down whoever tries it. I won't bother citing examples, because I'm sensing that nothing I say will alter your position. [Image: smile.gif]

And BTW, most of the things you've cited here aren't examples of bureaucracy.


(08-22-2010, 01:46 AM)altezon Wrote:  Hello, anybody home? Gov build worship house is constitution-impossible.
Not ordinary impossible, but impossible impossible.
(08-22-2010, 08:33 AM)billy Wrote:  a multi cultural place of worship would negate them not being able to be involved in the building of it. no one said they would run it. it would just be a building until it was populatedWink i'm sure the white house has a place of worship built within Wink as does the pentagon and many other government places such as armed forces bases and embassies etc.
Chapels yes -- rooms set aside in existing structures for the convenience of government employees (military bases are a special case). But as for your proposal, the very act of designating what religions can or cannot be in such a project is prohibited.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_...ted_States


(08-22-2010, 01:46 AM)altezon Wrote:  Non sequitur. What planet are you calling from??
(08-22-2010, 08:33 AM)billy Wrote:  why, and please don't comment on me or my planet, stick to the debate not the debater Wink
All right, if we're to be sober now.


(08-22-2010, 08:33 AM)billy Wrote:  why is non sequiter that i find the front man (spokesperson) for the mosques to be built an ex hammas leader (fact) unsuitable to not only be taking part but to be seemingly orchestrating things under the guise of cordoba, who as of yet has not put any money forward. i won't enquire as to your home planet but i personally try not to just accept an ex terrorists word as gospel (if you pardon the christian pun)
It's a non sequitur in the sense that it doesn't respond to information I've given you.
I'll give it again: your ex-Hamas leader has nothing to do with Cordoba House.
Reread your own link, and then see http://pigpenpoetry.com/showthread.php?t...4#pid36654


Messages In This Thread
a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 07-21-2010, 11:01 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 07-21-2010, 11:53 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 07-21-2010, 03:29 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 07-22-2010, 09:20 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by addy - 07-21-2010, 05:25 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 07-21-2010, 06:44 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 07-22-2010, 10:03 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by mrmod - 07-23-2010, 04:55 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 07-23-2010, 06:48 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by mrmod - 07-29-2010, 07:40 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 07-29-2010, 10:58 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by mrmod - 08-05-2010, 03:21 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by cigarbabe - 08-05-2010, 10:32 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-05-2010, 11:23 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-05-2010, 02:07 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-06-2010, 08:39 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-06-2010, 11:49 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by addy - 08-06-2010, 10:33 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by cigarbabe - 08-06-2010, 12:10 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by kath3 - 08-12-2010, 04:03 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-13-2010, 05:19 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-23-2010, 12:42 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-23-2010, 01:22 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by srijantje - 08-19-2010, 10:55 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-20-2010, 01:18 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by mrmod - 08-21-2010, 01:49 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-21-2010, 07:10 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-21-2010, 07:24 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-21-2010, 02:17 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by srijantje - 08-21-2010, 02:49 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-23-2010, 08:40 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-23-2010, 10:09 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-21-2010, 05:40 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-21-2010, 07:34 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-22-2010, 01:46 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-22-2010, 08:33 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-22-2010, 09:45 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by srijantje - 08-22-2010, 12:49 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-22-2010, 01:42 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by addy - 08-22-2010, 02:54 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-22-2010, 03:06 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by srijantje - 08-22-2010, 08:49 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-22-2010, 04:43 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-22-2010, 08:41 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-23-2010, 07:46 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-23-2010, 10:57 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by addy - 08-23-2010, 12:49 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-23-2010, 01:07 PM



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