a mosque at ground zero
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Quote:There are three problems with your suggestion:

The project has already been approved by the city. My sense is that the only basis for denying permits would have been zoning laws and building codes.

It's being built on privately-owned land. The Government (the United States and the State of New York are separate governments) can't arbitrarily take the land and decide what to use it for except in cases of eminent domain, which doesn't apply here.

Both the state and federal constitutions forbid government from being a religious referee, except where alleged constitutional violations of "the separation of church and state" are brought to the attention of a court.

first off, i'm not saying the gov should build it at that specific place, i'm saying they could build it at ground zero. if you read my other posts you'll see where i said in the shape of a wheel with a multi religious community centre at it's hub, something that wouldn't be possible in the space of the building they wish to use.

the gov can stop whatever the shit it wants. it has the ability to put so many orders against something the mosque would never see the light of day. the fact land is privately owned doesn't mean it can automatically be used as a church or place of worship. it can be stopped simply because building it where it is would cause traffic congestion. it's as easy as that. the gov doesn't have to be a religious referee. all it has to do is say it's unsafe for pedestrians, it's a fire hazard to neighbouring buildings. the noise pollution from the loud prayers isn't acceptable.

Quote:billy Wrote: i think the problem is that the person or group who want to build/start the mosque at zero has a bad past when it comes to showing peace and harmony. he's said some pretty inflammatory things as well. anyway, i think the idea is good but the person formulating it might not be.
you said could i be more specific?


Zahar is a co-founder of Hamas and its chief on the Gaza Strip.

New York Sen. Chuck Schumer says Zahar's comments don't carry any weight because Hamas is a terrorist organization. Schumer hasn't taken a stand on the mosque.

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something i agree with. build it by all means but at least make sure those in charge are'nt going to be ex hamas leaders. as leader of hamas he said and did too many nasty things to make him a believable person (his position which is fact, means no source of his hatred for jews and the west is needed, it is and was always a given) to front such a project in such a place. if anything his past makes his motives highly suspect.

a bit like the ss wanting to open a bar or meeting place for prayer in Jerusalem


Messages In This Thread
a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 07-21-2010, 11:01 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 07-21-2010, 11:53 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 07-21-2010, 03:29 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 07-22-2010, 09:20 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by addy - 07-21-2010, 05:25 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 07-21-2010, 06:44 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 07-22-2010, 10:03 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by mrmod - 07-23-2010, 04:55 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 07-23-2010, 06:48 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by mrmod - 07-29-2010, 07:40 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 07-29-2010, 10:58 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by mrmod - 08-05-2010, 03:21 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by cigarbabe - 08-05-2010, 10:32 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-05-2010, 11:23 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-05-2010, 02:07 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-06-2010, 08:39 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-06-2010, 11:49 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by addy - 08-06-2010, 10:33 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by cigarbabe - 08-06-2010, 12:10 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by kath3 - 08-12-2010, 04:03 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-13-2010, 05:19 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-23-2010, 12:42 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-23-2010, 01:22 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by srijantje - 08-19-2010, 10:55 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-20-2010, 01:18 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by mrmod - 08-21-2010, 01:49 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-21-2010, 07:10 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-21-2010, 07:24 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-21-2010, 02:17 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by srijantje - 08-21-2010, 02:49 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-23-2010, 08:40 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-23-2010, 10:09 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-21-2010, 05:40 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-21-2010, 07:34 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-22-2010, 01:46 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-22-2010, 08:33 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-22-2010, 09:45 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by srijantje - 08-22-2010, 12:49 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-22-2010, 01:42 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by addy - 08-22-2010, 02:54 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-22-2010, 03:06 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by srijantje - 08-22-2010, 08:49 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-22-2010, 04:43 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-22-2010, 08:41 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-23-2010, 07:46 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by billy - 08-23-2010, 10:57 AM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by addy - 08-23-2010, 12:49 PM
RE: a mosque at ground zero - by altezon - 08-23-2010, 01:07 PM



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