No good English poets
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Jules is an artist now, and a good one, considering it's art done by a fictional character on a tv show (?), and talks like post-2000 Winona Ryder/Joan Cusack. But, what other way can she go than living with a rich married man with a fetish?

But why not? Making poems can be as much about living with a rich married man with a fetish as being an alcoholic or having mood swings and being what is popularly called unstable.
I hear that emotions and facial expressions are cultural, art in life out and vice versa. You try to escape the cliche and you suffer cuz the track pulls you back, you get away from cliches, and don't suffer, and the track suffers. Why escape?

That's the theme of this thread, why escape? Why not write like pre-Shakespeare? Why no go back to the pagan gods an the pre-socratics.

I don't see people based on what they do.
I see people what they are,
and what they're doing.

Same with poems and tv shows and Jules and Maddie.
Sometimes poems are no good, and sometimes they are useful to me and are good. The same poems. 
Sometimes you read ah books of criticism of Wordsworth from the 1970s, and the critic has spun certain aspects of Wordsworth, and you look, and those things are there, the things the critic invented and "added", are/were already there.

The real solution I come to when it comes to British poets is that I don't read them. I have a fetish for dead writers, one, it's Romantic, two, it allows for my affective-coherent experience of ghosts and interactive reading-dreaming-adventuring-writing-and other aspects.
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No good English poets - by busker - 05-17-2026, 10:21 PM
RE: No good English poets - by wasellajam - 05-18-2026, 12:56 AM
RE: No good English poets - by milo - 05-18-2026, 02:53 AM
RE: No good English poets - by Magpie - 05-18-2026, 04:24 AM
RE: No good English poets - by milo - 05-18-2026, 04:27 AM
RE: No good English poets - by Magpie - 05-18-2026, 04:39 AM
RE: No good English poets - by milo - 05-18-2026, 05:00 AM
RE: No good English poets - by busker - 05-18-2026, 05:10 AM
RE: No good English poets - by busker - 05-18-2026, 05:06 AM
RE: No good English poets - by milo - 05-18-2026, 05:09 AM
RE: No good English poets - by Magpie - 05-18-2026, 05:20 AM
RE: No good English poets - by milo - 05-18-2026, 05:29 AM
RE: No good English poets - by milo - 05-18-2026, 05:10 AM
RE: No good English poets - by busker - 05-18-2026, 05:15 AM
RE: No good English poets - by Bruce V - 05-18-2026, 05:16 AM
RE: No good English poets - by busker - 05-18-2026, 05:25 AM
RE: No good English poets - by Magpie - 05-18-2026, 05:45 AM
RE: No good English poets - by milo - 05-18-2026, 06:13 AM
RE: No good English poets - by rowens - 05-18-2026, 08:00 AM
RE: No good English poets - by RiverNotch - 05-18-2026, 01:23 PM
RE: No good English poets - by busker - 05-18-2026, 01:51 PM
RE: No good English poets - by rowens - 05-18-2026, 11:46 PM



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