What's the breaking point?

[alonso ramoran]

alexorande, what are you going to do with all this violence?

Where are you going to store it?

Do you have an outline of the violence and in what manner it should take place?


The map.

Put the map in The Sewer. So nobody will see it coming.

I think that power needs to be built from the ground up by the people if they are serious about taking up the gun. This means creating programs where people are being fed (community gardens for example), people are being medically taken care of (The BPP's free clinics), even down to the shit we don't think about, like pest control or whatnot. General stuff that improves our material conditions. If we don't have that, then there's no reason for any collective, org, or party to be taking up the gun. They'd be fighting for nothing.

As for the type of violence that's needed, I feel like we should look to the tactics that are frequently used successfully in the Third World against Western countries, which are guerilla tactics. This can consist of only fighting when victory is guaranteed, blending back in with the masses when things don't look good, launching unpredictable raids to gather resources and keep the capitalist forces psychologically on edge. George Jackson discusses the advantages of urban guerilla warfare over rural guerilla warfare in his book "Blood In My Eye" that's worth looking into.

I will continue the conversation about how best to structure the violence if you wish.

C'mon, rowens, I really do hope that you're being sarcastic.

The very last thing America needs right now are ways to structure the violence. The chaotic methods are doing way too much damage as it is.

America already has structured violence. The US military, prisons, cops, healthcare system, public schools, etc. are all built upon structured violence. Our entire culture is built upon our lust for this structured violence that keeps the masses in poverty. We fly fighter jets over big events like the Super Bowl to celebrate the fire power we use to bully and exploit the Third World. There is nothing chaotic about this violence. If you understand the culture, you'd understand it's only natural for there to be these ruptures in our society where events such as mass shootings take place.

I agree with the face-value sentiment of your statement though. The last thing the US does need is structured violence. But, in a country where idiots only scream to vote and others shrug while children are sprayed with bullets not ONLY in their country but abroad, fuck the US. I HOPE a violence structured by the masses is the last thing it needs to collapse, otherwise we're already dead.