11-14-2019, 02:07 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-14-2019, 02:27 PM by RiverNotch.)
(11-14-2019, 11:14 AM)dukealien Wrote:I feel like you misinterpret how context is supposed to work.(11-14-2019, 03:56 AM)alexorande Wrote: Looking only at the words of the phrase "black lives matter" doesn't even imply other lives do not so much as it implies they do. It's just a phrase to remind those in power who have incurred injustices disproportionately, from police brutality to unjust sentencing, on black people and POC that their lives matter. Simple as that.As you know, while the bare phrase “black lives matter” is a near tautology (as is “white lives matter”) - if anything matters, it’s human lives - its meaning, in context, is an assertion that lives of black people matter less to those it accuses than those of (for example) white people similarly situated. This assertion is false and insulting. As any fair analysis shows, black criminals suffer more fatalities (as well as arrests and punishments) because of their own behavior rather than bias against them for group membership.
So when someone whines about being white and oppressed by the historically oppressed, they sound stupid to put it bluntly. And why are they so quick to be secure with their white complexion as opposed to understanding why it is that these injustices only happen to black people and POC, but mainly black people?
Any response (such as “white lives matter” or “blue lives matter,” i.e. police are entitled to defend their own lives) enrages BLM accusers because it cancels their unearned privilege derived from being “historically” (not personally or actually) oppressed.
As for “it’s OK to be white,” this is another near-tautology... but its meaning, in context, is that being anti-white (in the guise of being pro-anything else at all) is racism as surely as being anti-black or anti-POC is since it turns solely on race... with a tincture of Marxism. Like the less stringent but still biting “white lives matter” and “all lives matter,” it cancels the unearned privilege of anti-white racists (essentially all of academe and the Left) and is therefore falsely called a hate crime– by the world’s premiere hate-criminals.
Thanks for the opportunity to make that clear. Have a very nice and fulfilling day.
Black lives matter's meaning, in context, is certainly that the lives of black people matter less than of the white people who are supposedly similarly situated. But it's not false, it's true, and that's what the term is supposed to shine a light towards. "We are lives", the statement goes, "so why do we matter less?!"
"As any fair analysis shows, black criminals suffer more fatalities (as well as arrests and punishments) because of their own behavior rather than bias against them for group membership."
It is true that criminals are punished for their own behavior, but it's more important to analyze why a person turns to crime in the first place, and I think that is more often the place from where literature is supposed to work. Few people are born evil, but some people are disproportionately born in environments that encourage them to do evil, often because of poverty or some institutional bias against them -- see, for instance, how Othello was in part driven by madness because everyone's opinion was already somewhat biased against him, or how Jean Valjean was forced into a life of crime by both his poverty and the poverty to which the system at the time had, by its unjust biases, tethered him, or how Kendrick Lamar sings "good kid, MAAAD city". And literature is often a fairer representation of life than bland statistics -- not that the statistics don't themselves support any interpretations of institutional bias, my chief problem right now being I cannot access the more context-driven studies I have encountered in the near past.
I must admit, the following series of links will have been hurriedly compiled, largely from a repository at the Washington Post.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?...id=3146057
https://5harad.com/papers/100M-stops.pdf...The+Appeal&utm_campaign=3a050d7014-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_08_09_04_14_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_72df992d84-3a050d7014-58394763
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl...ne.0141854
https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/...5.full.pdf
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10....3119829332
http://cfyj.org/images/pdf/Social_Justic...8-2018.pdf
https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-an...isparities
https://www.sentencingproject.org/public...ment-2016/
and so on and so forth. And there are really two conclusions to be made of the studies that tell of mass incarceration among african americans: either African Americans are unjustly targeted by both the criminal justice system and by the restrictions on social mobility inherent to America; or, that crime does not happen at an equal rate between races and social classes, and african americans really are black devils.

