06-24-2019, 03:09 PM
Seraphim wrote:
There is a connection between poetry and lyric. But lyric relies on pitch and the duration of a musical note (quarter note, half note etc). Poetics in English relies on meter, whether the poet uses it consciously or not. Melody is based on the music. The closet poetry can come is a well executed rhythm - but it does not use pitch nor duration. What is does use is one of the topics I like to see discussed here - on a different thread.
I think you are completely wrong. Speech variation is called intonation and employs pitch. It is connected to both meaning, (humour , sarcasm, or simply elucidating syntax) plus the different sounds of words, (vowels and dipthongs) which tend to go with high and low notes eg 'me' 'moo', me will be pitched higher than moo, it is simply how we percieve the timbre of vowels, ay, ee, I , are high and sharp, oo, ah, ow are low and flat. So it is the sound of words and the juxaposition of words that create intonation. Intonation is not perceived as melody because mostly it just follows normal speech patterns which we are used to. But it is there. And in lyric poetry it is at the core of its appeal.
There is a connection between poetry and lyric. But lyric relies on pitch and the duration of a musical note (quarter note, half note etc). Poetics in English relies on meter, whether the poet uses it consciously or not. Melody is based on the music. The closet poetry can come is a well executed rhythm - but it does not use pitch nor duration. What is does use is one of the topics I like to see discussed here - on a different thread.
I think you are completely wrong. Speech variation is called intonation and employs pitch. It is connected to both meaning, (humour , sarcasm, or simply elucidating syntax) plus the different sounds of words, (vowels and dipthongs) which tend to go with high and low notes eg 'me' 'moo', me will be pitched higher than moo, it is simply how we percieve the timbre of vowels, ay, ee, I , are high and sharp, oo, ah, ow are low and flat. So it is the sound of words and the juxaposition of words that create intonation. Intonation is not perceived as melody because mostly it just follows normal speech patterns which we are used to. But it is there. And in lyric poetry it is at the core of its appeal.