04-02-2019, 12:37 PM
I'll fall between ella and rivernotch here.
Fame is (to me) about how widely-known someone or something is (for good or bad reasons, since we aren't specifically discussing infamy) among a specified audience. If no audience is specified, it is inclusive of all entities that can understand the concept of fame (perhaps a lazy definition, deal with it).
I believe and object can be famous, if it has a name.
I do not believe fame requires:
that person become well-known in their lifetime,
for their birth name, only among those who are well acquainted with the subject of their fame,
only for work they have done outside of their professional environment (a famous sports player is paid for their sport),
or that they are most famous for the subject in question (famous sportsman becomes more famous for a trial).
Now you've specifically asked about an artisan, but that does not mean fame must be considered among other artisans. No, fame here would include all sentient entities that can collectively conceptualize the idea of fame.
In order to be famous for a work of art, I believe the name of the creator must be known almost as much as the work itself.
Generally, most talented does not mean most famous. Fame can often times be bought, and it is still fame. Fame is about being widely-known by any specified audience - or else among an all inclusive audience.
Fame is (to me) about how widely-known someone or something is (for good or bad reasons, since we aren't specifically discussing infamy) among a specified audience. If no audience is specified, it is inclusive of all entities that can understand the concept of fame (perhaps a lazy definition, deal with it).
I believe and object can be famous, if it has a name.
I do not believe fame requires:
that person become well-known in their lifetime,
for their birth name, only among those who are well acquainted with the subject of their fame,
only for work they have done outside of their professional environment (a famous sports player is paid for their sport),
or that they are most famous for the subject in question (famous sportsman becomes more famous for a trial).
Now you've specifically asked about an artisan, but that does not mean fame must be considered among other artisans. No, fame here would include all sentient entities that can collectively conceptualize the idea of fame.
In order to be famous for a work of art, I believe the name of the creator must be known almost as much as the work itself.
Generally, most talented does not mean most famous. Fame can often times be bought, and it is still fame. Fame is about being widely-known by any specified audience - or else among an all inclusive audience.
If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.
"Or, if a poet writes a poem, then immediately commits suicide (as any decent poet should)..." -- Erthona
"Or, if a poet writes a poem, then immediately commits suicide (as any decent poet should)..." -- Erthona