11-22-2018, 10:39 AM
leanne hit it on the head, i relate more to buk than to larkin though i do enjoy clever wit over in your face stuff. that aside, i relate to buk because of my life journey. the drinking the shouting, the swearing. the crack; not the wife beating and slovenliness but a large amount of what buk is like relates to me. i was a heavy drinker, a brawler, a peer of the underside of society. people are different and will follow and enjoy more the poets that relate to them. now beside buck, i really love some of the sickly stuff,
She walks in beauty, like the night.
Of cloudless climes and starry skies;....
i love Cristina Rossetti though i'm only aware of a few of her poems. Sara Teasedale is another poet i love, her poem "there will come soft rains' among a lot of others, stir something in me. The big thing for me is this, i only learned of these poets and more when i started this site. i do struggle to remember names and the poems that belong to them but while being here i've read thousands of poems i found many new boxes to open. i also found many i dislike. Maya Angelou, not too keen on emily dickenson either. .
basically what makes us like one poet over another is us; our experiences, our hopes and loves. We make them what they are to us.
She walks in beauty, like the night.
Of cloudless climes and starry skies;....
i love Cristina Rossetti though i'm only aware of a few of her poems. Sara Teasedale is another poet i love, her poem "there will come soft rains' among a lot of others, stir something in me. The big thing for me is this, i only learned of these poets and more when i started this site. i do struggle to remember names and the poems that belong to them but while being here i've read thousands of poems i found many new boxes to open. i also found many i dislike. Maya Angelou, not too keen on emily dickenson either. .
basically what makes us like one poet over another is us; our experiences, our hopes and loves. We make them what they are to us.
(11-20-2018, 04:47 AM)rowens Wrote: That makes perfect sense, Leanne. But I don't see where Bukowski has any talent above what most Americans do. Yet, he, of all people, somehow does, and that is a great accomplishment. But he did. Like I said, I've read his letters and biographies. He hides it so well. THAT is his art.
And. . . . I read a lot of John Berryman. He is classed with Plath and Sexton and Lowell. If I spelled them right. I don't see Berryman as a Confessional. . . . And. I, like I said somewhere before, some people don't have a regular relationship with their ego. And I think that some of these people, their poetry is as close to an alligned peronality as they get. I don't think S. Plath was a great poet. But I do appreciate her trying to make art out of her chaos. She wouldn't've killed herself, huh?
Now . . . I wonder, Leanne. What, if anything, does Bukowski have? Why do freaks like me and billy enjoy reading this hack?