04-27-2010, 08:41 AM
(04-27-2010, 06:38 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: Excuse me I forgot to say ratified. Maybe you missed my first post they were actually the first and only 10 to be ratified.they were the only ten to be ratified?
For Billy...
So, what does this all have to do with the 10th Amendment? Well, once we understand that the Constitution was not meant to grant the Federal government power but to limit the scope of the Federal government’s power, we can look at it in a proper light. In a nutshell, it says that whatever isn’t laid out in the Constitution is left in the hands of the People and their States. Think about that for a minute. It means that whatever rights you think you have and whatever powers you think the government ought to have, barring what’s already written down in the Constitution, are supposed to be dealt with at the State or interpersonal level. The House of Representatives and the Senate are not supposed to be the major law-making bodies in these United States; the State and local legislatures are supposed to be.
wtf, all the amendments have to be ratified or else their only amendments pending.
for benny. (note the ratification dates.)
Amendments 1 - 10: Bill of Rights (Ratified on 12/15/1791)
Amendment 1: Rights of freedom of religion (prohibits establishment of one religion over another by law, practicing religion freely), freedom of expression, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and freedom of press.
Amendment 2: Right to possess arms.
Amendment 3: Quartering of soldiers prohibited during peacetime. Soldiers should be quartered at a civilian home only with the owners permission.
Amendment 4: Freedom from seizure of property, arrests and searches without a specific warrant.
Amendment 5: Prohibits trial for a crime except on indictment of a Grand Jury and double jeopardy, prohibits punishment without legal procedures and taking away of private property without adequate compensation.
Amendment 6: Right to a public and speedy trial by an impartial jury, to confront the witnesses against the accused and to have a legal attorney in defense of the accused.
Amendment 7: Right to trial by a jury in civil cases.
Amendment 8: Prohibits imposing cruel, unusual punishments and fines, prohibits granting excessive bails.
Amendment 9: Assures the recognition of those rights that people may have but are not listed here.
Amendment 10: Provides that the powers that are not given to the United States nor prohibited by the constitution are reserved to the states respectively or to the people.
Amendments 11 - 27
Amendment 11: Clearly states the judicial powers of the US states and the federal government on foreign nationals and the limitations of the citizens to sue states under federal law. Ratified on 2/7/1795.
Amendment 12: Specifies the procedure for electing the president and the vice-president of the US separately by ballot votes. Ratified on 6/15/1804.
Amendment 13: Establishes the abolishment of slavery from the US and all the places that fall under its jurisdiction. Ratified on 12/6/1865.
Amendment 14: Broadly defines the parameters of the US citizenship, prohibits the states from reducing or diminishing the privileges of citizens and emphasizes their 'right to due process and the equal protection of the law'. Ratified on 7/9/1868.
Amendment 15: The citizens' right to vote shall not be denied by the states or the federal government on the basis of race, color or previous status of servitude. Ratified on 2/3/1870.
Amendment 16: Authorizes the federal government to collect taxes on income without apportionment. Ratified on 2/3/1913.
Amendment 17: Establishes the direct election of the senators to the United States Senate. Ratified on 4/8/1913.
Amendment 18: Prohibits the manufacture, sale, transportation, import or export of intoxicating beverages within the US and all the territories falling under its jurisdiction. Ratified on 1/16/1919.
Amendment 19: Establishes that the citizens' right to vote shall not be denied on the basis of their gender or sex. Ratified on 8/18/1920.
Amendment 20: States in detail the terms of office that the President, the Vice-President, the Senators and the Representatives shall hold. Ratified on 1/23/1933.
Amendment 21: Repeals the 18th Amendment. Prohibits the importation of intoxicating beverages. Ratified on 12/5/1933.
Amendment 22: Establishes that the Presidential term is limited to two years and a person shall be elected to the presidential office only once. Ratified on 2/27/1951.
Amendment 23: Allows the representation of the District of Columbia in the Presidential elections. Ratified on 3/29/1961.
Amendment 24: Prohibits the non-payment of poll tax or other tax as a basis of denial of the right to vote. Ratified on 1/23/1964.
Amendment 25: The Vice President shall become President in case the President is removed from office or in case of his death. Ratified on 2/10/1967.
Amendment 26: Prohibits the federal government or the state from denying any citizen who is 18 years or above, the right to vote. Ratified on 7/1/1971.
Amendment 27: Establishes that any law that increases or decreases the Congressional pay shall not be put to effect until the next term of office of the representatives begins. Ratified on 5/7/1992.
have you read the other 18 amendmants?
have you see the 18th amendment and then the 21st which repeals the 18th which in effect stops the 18th being an amendment.
or the 16th which allows the gov to collect taxs. ( i seem to remember your link saying all taxes must go to the state)
i found these two amendmants good as well;
Amendment 13: Establishes the abolishment of slavery from the US and all the places that fall under its jurisdiction. Ratified on 12/6/1865.
Amendment 14: Broadly defines the parameters of the US citizenship, prohibits the states from reducing or diminishing the privileges of citizens and emphasizes their 'right to due process and the equal protection of the law'. Ratified on 7/9/1868.
i can see where the state has supreme power outside the 1st ten amends.
the first ten amendments as you so eloquently use are known as the bil pf rights. it does not negate the fact that the rest (11 to 27) are also laid down in law and must be followed by the individual states as and where stated.
is does not negate the fact that another 27 amendments can be made and ratified and the individual states would have no say what ever once they had been ratified.
the gove can and does make and ratify amendmants as it sees fit.
the last 12 having been created and ratified within the last 100 years.
in truth the gov of the usa are indeed the major lawmakers of the country.
the individual state can only pass local laws which can and often are overwritten by the fedral gov. laws such as the serving of booze, income tax, the age of voting, and also the right for women to vote. to name just a few.
in truth there isn't actually a lot that isn't in the constitution. and what isn't can be placed there with an amendment to the constitution.
you really thing the south wanted to abolish slavery?
no they didn't
but once the north put the abolition of slavery into the constitution they had no choice.
