my muse does not exist.

[billy]

we want it to be less mod heavy-handed.

we okay, the other mods don't like being the bad guys.
what we want is members to be more responsible.

and yes we are a focused workshop sadly many don't use us as such.

back to the problem:

The impression I get is that reviewers/critics here fasten upon the first putative problem like an errant comma and thenceforth snuffle through the remainder looking for more. Have noted that there be scant few bits of praise for the whole of anyone's efforts, only for bits and pieces of it. Wherefore Art was read by divers friends, English faculty among them, and all laughed. None of you did.

the above was part of a comment in a serious thread. they don't realize they're in a workshop environment, they just think they're in the big boy's forum where an errant comma shouldn't be mentioned. that's there's scant scant praise for the whole of anyone's efforts because it's really not a workshop but a well done you and the poem forum. of course there can be too much ridiculous in feedback but the place is a workshop.

That's exactly the problem, as I see it, billy. Making Workshop the focus; I thought it already was.  This kind of generic put-down (reviewers/critics here) has no place in a workshop. The passive-aggression of that 'snuffle', and the implied insult (English faculty/none of you) have no place. Responding to critique by pointing out how stupid 'everyone' is - has no place. So I've been surprised when the Mods allowed all of this to continue. I thought Serious was a bit more serious, I guess.

Maybe you have to be invited to join the Workshop? 

and we agree, serious should be a bit more serious, it's why i started this thread in hope of airing our dirty laundry. as of recently the admin and mods have pointed out a particular thread going awry.