chomsky

[billy]

To me it represents more the fact that there is no alternative within American "democracy" - corporations own the governments, the Federal reserve dictates the economy.. there is no scope for any change.

The Military Industrial Complex has taken over.
Compare the facts with those of Nazi rule in Germany.
Military spending was seen as the only way to beat financial recessions / depressions. By building more and more bullets, bombs and armaments the German (American) population was given hope.

i can agree with that. it's pretty much the same in the uk though it's a 3 party horse race. but hasn't it always been like that? when was it different?

as for the military industrialist. again i agree but again, hasn't it always been that way?

By building false enemies (in place of communists read Islamic terrorists) the nation is kept in a perpetual state of war.
By drilling the fear of "socialism" into the population those in power can move closer to a "free" dictatorship.

same again. haven't we always been like that. the uk itself was a socialist state for a long time but that changed a good while ago. in many ways a democracy is a dictatorship. we vote someone in to rule us. as an outsider i can't see any perceptible changes in the direction of socialism becoming the norm or a real dictatorship as such. i think the politico have always tried to scare us to vote a certain way.

I know he is not suggesting that the Democrats will wipe out the Republicans or vice-versa. Chomsky considers the two combined to be the real threat as they are the same party in different disguises.
Looked at from this perspective I think it will make more sense.

Obviously that 2% comment has little relevance to the US as such.

which was my point some of his comments had little or no relevance, they were just use as a scare tactic, something he accuses others of doing.

Remember he is 82 years old now.. he makes slip-ups and it helps to listen to more of his speeches to fully understand Chomsky's tangential thought processes..

if you're going to preach to the multitudes best get it right, i'm positive he has a a house full of researchers and copy writers as well as proof readers availavle, i can almost them saying "yep that nazi remark is a doozy"
my wife works in the media as does her girls. it doesn't matter what shit you spout just as long as you get their attention. and if they let mistakes like that get through by accident he needs to give up his job.

As for the National Socialists having 2% of the vote, that is true. The rise of the Nazi party was phenomenal, through the use of propaganda and word of mouth scare mongering between the years 1935 - 1939.

The greatest trick the Nazi's pulled was to remove all other parties from the elections, banning any opposition parties by law.

if an american socialist party rises to power over the next four years i'll not only eat my hat but everyone elses.

Not so blatant but still relevant, there is no opposition in American politics. All parties may say they stand for opposing policies yet the truth is obviously not the case.
Both parties are supported, financed and work for the large corporate elites. All parties work for the military machine at the expense of the citizens.

i don't agree. i know the politico set up is favoured to let either of the two parties win but the people do have the power to vote any party they wish into power. the people are and have always been the true opposition party.

I'm waffling a little.. my brain still hasn't connected yet today.
Apologies, but I'll get back on track after more caffeine.

no probs with the waffle, you made a lot of sense. for the best part i'm playing devils advocate though on this subject i do believe what i say. (to a large extent) i don't think anything to do with anything as intricate as social politics can be a clear cut case either way