Simplicity in Poetry
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(08-25-2016, 04:25 PM)cvanshelton Wrote:  
(08-25-2016, 01:20 PM)milo Wrote:  
(08-25-2016, 12:59 PM)cvanshelton Wrote:  1. Always identify your audience.
2. Always write to your audience.
3. Always.
I heartily disagree with this.
Just write a great poem, the audience is of no consequence .
Then you have already identified your audience as yourself, and your opinion is the only one that matters. Pretty small world to live in, but if it works for you that's great.

(08-25-2016, 01:57 PM)milo Wrote:  
(08-25-2016, 01:42 PM)lizziep Wrote:  Glad you see you changed your mind about that one! Hysterical Hysterical Hysterical

I might have had to break you. Tongue


Respectfully (please don't beat me Beg ), isn't this the same as saying that your ultimate audience is yourself? I don't mean that in a bad way, it just sounds like you've identified your audience. If you're not writing for anyone else, you're writing for yourself. I think this is noble, but I'm far too egotistical to not want accolades from the masses (said 75% tongue in cheek)!

I feel like it's kind of a tree falling in the forest and no one hearing it situation -- how do you know it's a great poem if no one else reads it?
I also heartily disagree with this. You write to create a poem. From there what happens, happens.
You would deliberately make a poem worse to pander to an audience?
Anyway, if you write a great poem the audience will find it.
Writing to a specific audience is not pandering, nor does it necessarily make a poem worse. There is no causal relationship there. Also, in writing, the formula of "if you build it, they will come" does not work. You have to do the work. You have to put your writing out there. The responsibility is on you to find your audience, not the other way around. But, one can only conclude from your previous responses, your audience seems to be yourself, so if that is the case, I suppose your audience did find you insofar as you have found yourself. Again, I don't have anything against that perspective as long as it works for you.
If you are writing different due to your audience, then you are pandering.
If you are not making your poem worse (you are writing the best poem regardless of your audience) then you are not actually writing for your audience at all.

I don't know how my personal actions would be relevant but no, I don't write for myself. I also don't write for an audience. I merely write to produce the best poem I can. I post them here to help to that effect. What happens after that doesn't really interest me that much.
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Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-24-2016, 07:52 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Todd - 08-24-2016, 09:58 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by QDeathstar - 08-24-2016, 10:36 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-24-2016, 01:17 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by next - 08-24-2016, 01:49 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-28-2016, 11:16 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by next - 08-29-2016, 11:13 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Todd - 08-24-2016, 02:16 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by RiverNotch - 08-24-2016, 10:55 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-24-2016, 11:35 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Weeded - 08-26-2016, 10:12 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by RiverNotch - 08-24-2016, 11:52 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-25-2016, 12:05 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by RiverNotch - 08-25-2016, 12:39 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-25-2016, 01:22 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by RiverNotch - 08-25-2016, 01:44 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-25-2016, 01:56 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Leanne - 08-25-2016, 04:27 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-25-2016, 11:09 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Achebe - 08-25-2016, 06:00 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by UselessBlueprint - 08-25-2016, 12:45 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Achebe - 08-25-2016, 01:08 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by UselessBlueprint - 08-25-2016, 01:20 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-25-2016, 01:42 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-25-2016, 01:57 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Achebe - 08-25-2016, 02:10 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-25-2016, 02:54 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by cvanshelton - 08-25-2016, 12:59 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-25-2016, 01:20 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by cvanshelton - 08-25-2016, 04:25 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-25-2016, 10:41 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by QDeathstar - 08-25-2016, 08:46 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by ellajam - 08-25-2016, 09:36 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by QDeathstar - 08-25-2016, 11:07 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-25-2016, 11:34 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-26-2016, 01:34 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Todd - 08-26-2016, 01:16 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-26-2016, 02:10 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by cvanshelton - 08-26-2016, 02:50 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-26-2016, 03:11 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by cvanshelton - 08-26-2016, 03:31 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-26-2016, 03:36 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-26-2016, 03:43 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by cvanshelton - 08-26-2016, 04:16 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-26-2016, 05:48 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-26-2016, 06:12 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-26-2016, 06:15 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-26-2016, 06:30 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Achebe - 08-26-2016, 07:27 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-27-2016, 05:43 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Achebe - 08-27-2016, 06:23 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-27-2016, 06:35 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by ellajam - 08-26-2016, 06:08 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by next - 08-26-2016, 12:58 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-26-2016, 03:53 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by ellajam - 08-26-2016, 06:08 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by rowens - 08-27-2016, 04:05 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Leanne - 08-27-2016, 05:22 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Leanne - 08-27-2016, 05:50 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by shemthepenman - 08-27-2016, 07:38 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-27-2016, 07:48 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by shemthepenman - 08-27-2016, 08:07 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by shemthepenman - 08-27-2016, 06:54 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Leanne - 08-27-2016, 06:58 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-27-2016, 07:06 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by shemthepenman - 08-27-2016, 07:18 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-27-2016, 07:28 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-27-2016, 07:23 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Leanne - 08-27-2016, 07:20 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Leanne - 08-27-2016, 07:38 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Leanne - 08-27-2016, 08:19 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by shemthepenman - 08-27-2016, 08:47 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-27-2016, 08:56 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Leanne - 08-27-2016, 09:00 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by shemthepenman - 08-27-2016, 09:12 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-27-2016, 09:47 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Leanne - 08-27-2016, 09:51 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-27-2016, 09:54 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 08-27-2016, 10:13 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Leanne - 08-27-2016, 09:56 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by QDeathstar - 08-27-2016, 10:11 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by milo - 08-27-2016, 10:18 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Leanne - 08-27-2016, 10:14 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by rowens - 08-27-2016, 12:48 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 09-03-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by next - 08-27-2016, 01:37 PM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by shemthepenman - 09-03-2016, 06:29 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by rowens - 09-05-2016, 03:30 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by rowens - 09-05-2016, 04:02 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by ellajam - 09-05-2016, 06:22 AM
RE: Simplicity in Poetry - by Lizzie - 09-05-2016, 12:04 PM



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