04-11-2016, 01:01 PM
who said it's noble?
the poem isn't about your daughter. that you see it that way is how you see it, not necessarily how it is. and is that all he's saying? this [fellow] has written a poem, not about your daughter but about a specific group of people. i stumble to understand how his doing so has affected you so. how come when much worse than this is written people aren't jumping up and saying...you cunt, that poem is about a woman, it could be my daughter...
god forgive me for ever having offended you unknowingly because i've lost count of the number of sexist poems i've written. i've seen and admired a lot of your artwork but you know what, i see more than one or two extremely sexist in their portrayal of woman. does that make them bad paintings, resoundingly no. do your sexist painting reflect anything of my girls, who fucking cares. lets stop art, lets kill poets, lets not mention little black women less it it pertains to my girls, and lets kill all artists who paint breasts and cunts and the female form in general but there's the rub isn't it. it's okay for one but not for another. if something like the poem in question offends you don't come to my house for dinner we abuse everyone through speech all the time. should woman count themselves blessed? what has that got to do with it. the question is; is the poem racist/sexist and if so is it in the readers eye or is the reader projecting what they perceive to be the mind of the poet. and at the end of the day if it is a sexist does it really matter. is the sexism any greater or smaller than many poems carry. i've seen much worse on facebook posts where people denounce the fairer sex for being twats, oops i said fairer sex...i'm a sexist. so no, i never said it was noble you just assumed i did. and i still like your paintings of women's naked bodies.
the poem isn't about your daughter. that you see it that way is how you see it, not necessarily how it is. and is that all he's saying? this [fellow] has written a poem, not about your daughter but about a specific group of people. i stumble to understand how his doing so has affected you so. how come when much worse than this is written people aren't jumping up and saying...you cunt, that poem is about a woman, it could be my daughter...
god forgive me for ever having offended you unknowingly because i've lost count of the number of sexist poems i've written. i've seen and admired a lot of your artwork but you know what, i see more than one or two extremely sexist in their portrayal of woman. does that make them bad paintings, resoundingly no. do your sexist painting reflect anything of my girls, who fucking cares. lets stop art, lets kill poets, lets not mention little black women less it it pertains to my girls, and lets kill all artists who paint breasts and cunts and the female form in general but there's the rub isn't it. it's okay for one but not for another. if something like the poem in question offends you don't come to my house for dinner we abuse everyone through speech all the time. should woman count themselves blessed? what has that got to do with it. the question is; is the poem racist/sexist and if so is it in the readers eye or is the reader projecting what they perceive to be the mind of the poet. and at the end of the day if it is a sexist does it really matter. is the sexism any greater or smaller than many poems carry. i've seen much worse on facebook posts where people denounce the fairer sex for being twats, oops i said fairer sex...i'm a sexist. so no, i never said it was noble you just assumed i did. and i still like your paintings of women's naked bodies.
(04-11-2016, 11:16 AM)shemthepenman Wrote: @Billy
i don't quite get your point. if the poem is sexist, which i think it is [or, at least condescending to women], it pertains to all of our daughters and granddaughters. this fellow is saying he loves 'little brown women' the way 'they' cover their mouth when they laugh. do 'they'? my children most certainly don't, especially not in the morning, and their mother most certainly never did - and fuck overt self-expression being a sin. and fuck sheep herders and their stone age backward thinking about women. and fuck any women that have been conditioned into accepting this infantilising shit as 'sweet' or 'endearing' or 'complimentary'.
are 'they' objects of swaying hips to be perved on by men? don't get me wrong, we all do it, but don't start giving me 'it's a noble thing' crap about aesthetics, or reclaiming femininity shite - women are not goddesses or earth mothers or nature incarnate; they're wankers, just like the rest of us scumbags.
should women count themselves blessed that they inspire such vacuous praise for a stroke of natural selective luck? and the ones that don't sway their hips or laugh like it were a sin or are pleasing in the most superficial ways to the opposite sex, can go fuck themselves.