03-22-2015, 08:37 AM
(03-22-2015, 08:26 AM)Erthona Wrote: Ah but pretending to not understand when you do understand, in order to make your point is deceitful and what kind of a victory is it when you must demean yourself (whether you will admit it or not) in order to win?so my meaning was unclear :/ I am not sure now whether that is my fault or yours. Yours if I follow you proverb.
However, I suppose you win. I am a simple man and I cannot compete with the complexity of lies.
but anyhow, so irony is a lie? yep, that is true. My point is not deceitful, but my method is. The fact is you cannot make a one size fits all proverb about this kind of thing. I actually kind of understood what you meant (it still wasn't that clear, which makes it itself ironic), but I am sure there are people who wouldn't. I am sure that one can be as clear as spring water about quantum mechanics and a reader wouldn't understand it. Not because the writer is a failure but because the reader is dumb.
I wrote something ironically to convey a meaning. was it unclear? To you, maybe. Is that my fault or yours?
not to mention the hundreds, thousands, of different interpretations of what has been said or written. It just seems like a stupid proverb, is all. If I want to write something that has a meaning or means something then there are most certainly times when the reader can be blamed for not understanding. And as for the origin of the failure to... it is a misnomer to say it belongs on one side or the other. If you say something stupid then it is your fault. On the other hand if you say something clever to someone as thick as shit it is theirs.