01-12-2015, 09:23 AM
(01-12-2015, 08:14 AM)Erthona Wrote: I look into the sky at night through a simple telescope and see further back in time than what the creationist allow to exists. I have seen relics of man in North America from 14,000 years ago when they say the earth did not yet exist. Nor do they seem to be bothered that the very ideas they deride is the basis for the cell phone, and computer they use, as well as the typesetter used in printing the Bible they misinterpret while rudely waving it under other people's noses. Of course saying this is much akin to a composting toilet.I was debating God's existence with my youngest daughter, yesterday (she is 14, a christian, believes in God and goes to church, etc.); I was explaining the theory of falsifiability, negative proofs, language violence, etc. etc. Until exasperated I pulled out the old 'if God is omnipotent, can he make a rock so big that he cannot move it?' paradox; to which she replied 'yes'. I said, but that means he is not omnipotent because he cannot move the rock. To which she replied 'he can'. I said, if he can make a rock so big that he cannot move it, but subsequently can move it, then he is not omnipotent. To which she said 'he can do both.'
In terms of binary, I am for it, as I intend to buy you nary anything, so it works for me.
As to the subject we are currently on, I have no idea where it came from and I refuse to go back beyond this page to find out. I will either contribute to this meaningless conversation or not. I am fine either way.
Happy Torah Study Day,
Dale

What a wonderfully positive philosophy, with an unfortunately misguided aim at The Other. If only people could could put that much insanity into living this life, in this world, maybe we would have more String Theory and less Hell.
"bring something incomprehensible into the world!" -Gilles Deleuze
also, if you have a spare hour or two and haven't already seen it, this is a great film (not necessarily well acted), but it is one of those missing films that I think everyone should watch (it isn't entirely out of the blue, it does relate to this topic... or this page of topic). this is the full film on youtube (which shows how underrated it is):
