[split] The Nothing

[shemthepenman]

anyhow, relating to the poem that inspired this discussion (a poem I really liked, by the way), I entirely disagree with the proposition that 'poetry is about making the obscure clear'. Fuck the reader that wants their own warm diarrhea spoon fed to them. Poetry is not a mathematical description or the pedant's ego boost. It is not simple and clear. If what you experience is a man sitting, smoking, then you are not a poet, you are anyone, a journalist, a landscape painter for chocolate boxes. It has nothing to do with obscurity or clarity, this is a nothing dualism; poetry is about sense, which is vague and fuzzy, but at the same time brutal and direct. I don't care to read that 'there was this beggar that used a poor baby as a prop' in more than 12  words! or maybe I do, but a newspaper article would do more. No, what I want, and anyone else looking to poetry to differentiate itself from other writing, is something more.

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shemthepenman wrote: "you mean till, of course "

No actually I meant the abbreviated form of "until" - 'til. 'til - "aphetic variant of until". I wanted the single syllable as it creates a caesura. Although definition wise there is little difference between until, till, and 'til. For me, I pronounce "'til" much sharper and quicker than either "till" or "until". So for me, it creates a rhythmic quality I like in terms of expressing the last three words of the line.  
But thanks for watching out for me

dale

no, sorry, till is correct. 'til is just plainly wrong.

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