we need a forum for beginners.

[tectak]

i think we should simlply ask them to give feedback on other peoples poems in that forum. or risk getting none and no help in return, off the more experienced members. we can also tell them that we want members who are prepared to contribute via feedback and that in the beginners forum , the mods will comment on any feedback that's merely back patting without a valid reason IE, the third line made me think of my first jump etc, would be fine. "it really rocks" would get a "please explain why it rocks"/Mod
we can call the forum The 1st Rung on the Ladder of Poetry and feedback. or the novice poet and critique forum. ...

I'm staying out of newbies...I cannot moderate myself. This is how I see it. Every new member goes in to the newbie forum. All the newbies crit each other. The mods, like unseen Gods, reap the souls of the deserving few and transport them into other forums. No crit. Just move them up to heaven. Of course, after the sscension, anything goes as far as crit rules (current) permit. In other words, you gotta be good to go to heaven...oh, and the arrangement should be written in stone.
Best,
Tom