11-26-2012, 06:59 AM
And I never said anyone was targetting my poetry, but it seems that I'm supposed to be arguing in favor of writing my poems for no audience, though I didn't say that.
People know that society is flawed. Many know what makes things worse, they do it anyway. I know that society is flawed, and that doesn't give me pleasure. Poetry doesn't have to tell anyone what to think, but it can sometimes. Poetry can go deeper than thought, and that's why it's a great aid to philosophy.--And before you can alter reality for the better, there has to be a reality to alter. Prior knowledge is always only "conditioned" knowledge, and we aren't all conditioned in the same way. Whatever we know or learn isn't necessarily reality.--No matter if you're "telling" or "showing" in a poem or elsewhere, most people will see and know and learn, and still not alter a thing for the better.
I get very little pleasure out of reading and writing, though, sometimes, I'm able to enjoy it. I don't know where I said that I was doing anything purely for pleasure. I don't see where I said I got pleasure out of knowing things for pleasure only. It's better to say that I get great displeasure out of knowing most things. All I've said is that I have a hard time getting anything out of life unless it's poetically enhanced. And as long as I can poetically enhance my life, I can then be motivated to learn and discuss things with others, and work toward altering things for the better. But there's no one I know that will discuss these things with me, or get up and go out and look at things with me. And since I have pains that sometimes paralyze my mind for long periods of time, I've been put in a position where if I speak about trying to alter things for the better, everybody I know puts that down to a symptom of delusion.--None of that says that I'm doing anything for pleasure or denying the need for an audience. And none of my philosophy of poetry that I've wrote about here has encouraged anyone to write only for pleasure and only for themselves. On the contrary, I'm making the point that poetry is important for the world, regardless of the fact that many people don't actually read or understand written poetry. And if no one reads it, or cares about you as a person in the place where you are, you can still write it or use it in other ways.
People know that society is flawed. Many know what makes things worse, they do it anyway. I know that society is flawed, and that doesn't give me pleasure. Poetry doesn't have to tell anyone what to think, but it can sometimes. Poetry can go deeper than thought, and that's why it's a great aid to philosophy.--And before you can alter reality for the better, there has to be a reality to alter. Prior knowledge is always only "conditioned" knowledge, and we aren't all conditioned in the same way. Whatever we know or learn isn't necessarily reality.--No matter if you're "telling" or "showing" in a poem or elsewhere, most people will see and know and learn, and still not alter a thing for the better.
I get very little pleasure out of reading and writing, though, sometimes, I'm able to enjoy it. I don't know where I said that I was doing anything purely for pleasure. I don't see where I said I got pleasure out of knowing things for pleasure only. It's better to say that I get great displeasure out of knowing most things. All I've said is that I have a hard time getting anything out of life unless it's poetically enhanced. And as long as I can poetically enhance my life, I can then be motivated to learn and discuss things with others, and work toward altering things for the better. But there's no one I know that will discuss these things with me, or get up and go out and look at things with me. And since I have pains that sometimes paralyze my mind for long periods of time, I've been put in a position where if I speak about trying to alter things for the better, everybody I know puts that down to a symptom of delusion.--None of that says that I'm doing anything for pleasure or denying the need for an audience. And none of my philosophy of poetry that I've wrote about here has encouraged anyone to write only for pleasure and only for themselves. On the contrary, I'm making the point that poetry is important for the world, regardless of the fact that many people don't actually read or understand written poetry. And if no one reads it, or cares about you as a person in the place where you are, you can still write it or use it in other ways.