11-24-2012, 10:54 PM
You are a horse-breeder. If someone who breeds hamsters tells you he is a horse-breeder, you might object. But he then tells you that what you call hamsters, can also be referred to as horses. The naming of things is a basic part of human knowledge and endeavour -- muddling them up is not helpful.
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Hi Abu,
I'm having a bit of a blond moment here because I'm not sure I totaly got what your were saying there. I get the whole language / naming thing (I'm enjoying this other thread as well) and I appreciate that my post was straying well of subject..but I had thought that allowing my thoughts to wander down the whole path of; who owns the right to "name" a thing, did perhaps have some relevance to Todd's comment, that a poem only belongs to a reader before it is read.
I had wondered how far this went and was it the same as with other copyright issues (as I had experianced then..hence the example). Does it belong with the person who brought all the elements together, (be these food ingredients, animal breed selection or words onto a page), or is it with the current beholder. So whilst i did not feel muddled when I wrote the comment...I was expressing a dislike for a system that allows a picture of my prize horse to be used as an advert, say for dog food or a donkey sanctuary and I have no control over this. I was simply wondering [out loud] if this same situation could be applied to poetry.
.... now I am feeling muddled because I can't get a handle on what point you are trying to make...could you give it to me one more time...in blond speak!

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Hi Abu,
I'm having a bit of a blond moment here because I'm not sure I totaly got what your were saying there. I get the whole language / naming thing (I'm enjoying this other thread as well) and I appreciate that my post was straying well of subject..but I had thought that allowing my thoughts to wander down the whole path of; who owns the right to "name" a thing, did perhaps have some relevance to Todd's comment, that a poem only belongs to a reader before it is read.
I had wondered how far this went and was it the same as with other copyright issues (as I had experianced then..hence the example). Does it belong with the person who brought all the elements together, (be these food ingredients, animal breed selection or words onto a page), or is it with the current beholder. So whilst i did not feel muddled when I wrote the comment...I was expressing a dislike for a system that allows a picture of my prize horse to be used as an advert, say for dog food or a donkey sanctuary and I have no control over this. I was simply wondering [out loud] if this same situation could be applied to poetry.
.... now I am feeling muddled because I can't get a handle on what point you are trying to make...could you give it to me one more time...in blond speak!



