maybe but mayabe not.
artists don't say mmm i think i'll just use the red paint (until they've learnt about all the other coloured paints.)
or writers...I know let's just use the latters a and c acacacacacacacacac i think it fair enough that we all have a preference, it's what makes us different after all. but we don't just have the one one voice, we all have many. one for love, one for telling the kids off, one for supporting a team. i just prefer to know about as many voices as i can, just in case i want to say something in a different one.
as for art not needing rules, not only does art need rules, it creates rules in order to present itself. you have to know how paint works to be a painter,
how notes works, to be a musician.
how text works, to be a poet
sonnets and the like...all mules dressed as horse, but isn't that the point, to adapt and change and create. how can we change something if we have little or no concept of what the fuck it is we want to change?
"i prefer to write outside the box?" well that all fine and dandy but how does one write outside the box, if they don't know what the box looks like, how can they de-construct the box if they don't know the mechanics of it?
i'm not saying write in rhyme or write in free or blank verse. i'm just curious as to why rhyme is a virus to many who are new to poetry? i just think the only thing they see is their own ego. "look at how good i am writing without rhyme" the truth is often "no you're not" or "that's because you haven't a clue as to how to write in meter and rhyme and if you did you're poetry would suck more hairy balls than your free verse does"
not that i've had a lot of experience with poetry but in general someone whose well versed in all aspects of what they do will beat the shit out of those who are one trick mules, or ponies, or, horses, i think if we dismiss rhyme, we're playing with a triangle instead of the full drum-kit.
We are what we know, We are not what we think we know.
artists don't say mmm i think i'll just use the red paint (until they've learnt about all the other coloured paints.)
or writers...I know let's just use the latters a and c acacacacacacacacac i think it fair enough that we all have a preference, it's what makes us different after all. but we don't just have the one one voice, we all have many. one for love, one for telling the kids off, one for supporting a team. i just prefer to know about as many voices as i can, just in case i want to say something in a different one.
(10-19-2012, 01:32 AM)TwistedAngel Wrote: hmm the age old (zzzzzzzzz) question..havin thought about should poetry rhyme or not an read (actually started to read then got bored an gave up) arguments by various writing experts ..i come to the conclusion...i dont carethe question isn't about should poetry rhyme, it's about whether or not we've moved away from rhyme and if so, why?
a good write is a good write an as poetry is a art then it should not have any rules otherwise it just gets stuffy an staid
that said some writing does have rules..sonnets an haiku the skill in writing these is writing somthing real within the rules
english haiku is 5-7-5 (some boffin dudes sat down an agreed this) now they say as long as it just 17 sillybubbles...personnaly i say gimme 5-7-5 anythin else is tryin to pass off a mule as a horse
as for art not needing rules, not only does art need rules, it creates rules in order to present itself. you have to know how paint works to be a painter,
how notes works, to be a musician.
how text works, to be a poet
Quote: i say gimme 5-7-5 anythin else is tryin to pass off a mule as a horseactually the 575 is the thing passing off a mule as a horse. it's a western concept that has no bearing in japanese writing (which is where the form comes from)
sonnets and the like...all mules dressed as horse, but isn't that the point, to adapt and change and create. how can we change something if we have little or no concept of what the fuck it is we want to change?
"i prefer to write outside the box?" well that all fine and dandy but how does one write outside the box, if they don't know what the box looks like, how can they de-construct the box if they don't know the mechanics of it?
i'm not saying write in rhyme or write in free or blank verse. i'm just curious as to why rhyme is a virus to many who are new to poetry? i just think the only thing they see is their own ego. "look at how good i am writing without rhyme" the truth is often "no you're not" or "that's because you haven't a clue as to how to write in meter and rhyme and if you did you're poetry would suck more hairy balls than your free verse does"
not that i've had a lot of experience with poetry but in general someone whose well versed in all aspects of what they do will beat the shit out of those who are one trick mules, or ponies, or, horses, i think if we dismiss rhyme, we're playing with a triangle instead of the full drum-kit.
We are what we know, We are not what we think we know.