07-25-2012, 06:27 PM
The site contains more examples then just nubians. I won't pretend to be a genuine anthropologist, just a hobby researcher, so I can't say I have studied each one extensively, but there are many examples there to look at, some of them which are more well known. I have many books I wish I could share but unfortunately we are debating via the internet. I will post a good book worth reading on the subject. But regardless, you can't deny there are peaceful groups living in the world, that is factual - my previous example of the Jains is a perfect example, as they practice non-violence the extent where they sweep the ground in front of them to avoid killing insects. But I'm sorry I just disagree. I am on the side of believing early man was peaceful. Not like a jain in the way of not hurting anything, but that they did not fight unless they actually had to, for instance disputes over territory or food. External stimulus for violence. It's not about being totally non-violent, it's just the level of violence.
More studies & articles around aggression in early man-
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2...021406.php
http://rense.com/general35/peaceful.htm
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/11...627770.php
More on peaceful societies -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Keeping-Peace-Co...0415947618
@billy
The reason veal exists is really because we have a surplus of calves due to dairy farming. But veal is a really horrible meat, the calves are treated so badly because they are so small it is easy to pack them in crates like sardines. And to be honest as much as I hate it, beef farming is a more pressing concern then chicken farming. Chicken farming does much less damage to the environment. If people ate less red meat and more chicken it would make a difference.
I also don't think killing for food makes you an aggressive person. Just a hungry one. I'm not saying early man was pacifistic, but there is plenty of evidence supporting the claim that they were "peaceful" meaning they were not violent for it's own sake. Keep in mind man did not even *have* territory for a long period of time, people used to be nomadic. And there is a lot of evidence that neanderthals ate humans but there is hardly any evidence that early humans ate each other. Early societies were more cannibalistic, but it wasn't like they just cut each other up like animals, it was normally a fallen friend or family member getting roasted, or an enemy in battle. So it depends on what time period you're looking it. I'm talking 6000 years ago or more, not 2000.
More studies & articles around aggression in early man-
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2...021406.php
http://rense.com/general35/peaceful.htm
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/11...627770.php
More on peaceful societies -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Keeping-Peace-Co...0415947618
@billy
The reason veal exists is really because we have a surplus of calves due to dairy farming. But veal is a really horrible meat, the calves are treated so badly because they are so small it is easy to pack them in crates like sardines. And to be honest as much as I hate it, beef farming is a more pressing concern then chicken farming. Chicken farming does much less damage to the environment. If people ate less red meat and more chicken it would make a difference.
I also don't think killing for food makes you an aggressive person. Just a hungry one. I'm not saying early man was pacifistic, but there is plenty of evidence supporting the claim that they were "peaceful" meaning they were not violent for it's own sake. Keep in mind man did not even *have* territory for a long period of time, people used to be nomadic. And there is a lot of evidence that neanderthals ate humans but there is hardly any evidence that early humans ate each other. Early societies were more cannibalistic, but it wasn't like they just cut each other up like animals, it was normally a fallen friend or family member getting roasted, or an enemy in battle. So it depends on what time period you're looking it. I'm talking 6000 years ago or more, not 2000.