Violence; does it work?

[billy]

i agree that in a erfect world cow would eat grass and listen to music while chewing the cud but truth is....we have to pay for it. i don't eat veal because oof the way they're treated but chickens in factory hutches....it doesn't seem as bad when i eat an egg. or a chicken for that matter. how they were reared doesn't and won't enter my head, if it does i'll still eat it. but a calf... its pretty weird isn't it.

And actually if you look at history people were relatively peaceful before agriculture/civilization, and in many places of the world where tribes still live people still are peaceful compared to our bigger societies. Battles happened when food was scarce and people needed more territory. We became more violent as we became more civillized for a variety of reasons.

before agriculture people had lots of land, enough that they didn't have to fight for space. (you said so yourself) now we have how many more people vying for our air? that said, i doubt the woolly mammoth would agree with you that they were peaceful. they were also more cannibals back then as well. tribes seldom entertained encroachment of territory and would savagely oppose such things. the killing of heirs was ripe.. as was the killing of those who threatened leadership. then we were wolf packs.