Miss Drugbody.
#1
When I was smoking marijuana, yeah, I smoked it, I don't know, every evening. And then some months ago, I stopped. And, well, you know, I wondered, you know, when I stopped, I probably smoked it every day for the previous five years. Then before that, I'd had five years without smoking it. And then before that, I probably smoked it every day for the previous 20 years or something. Anyway, but the thing is, you know, I wondered how it was going to affect my writing. 

And, well, what seems to have happened is that what I observed was that - if I've got anything real to say, I say it regardless.

Look, let's say while I was smoking the marijuana, I would open a Google document every month, create a new document. And then I would, you know, write things. And let's say every month, there were about 100 poems, let's say.

But then at the end of the month, you know, I would go through and look at what I'd done. And most of it, was stuff which I couldn't be bothered to read, because, well, you know, there was nothing, there was no meaningful content, right? 

It's just me experiencing the pleasure of making some rhymes or saying something sexually provocative, or whatever. 

It's just me reacting, you know, to the ugliness and vulgarity, you know, that I thought that I was seeing - and then recreating that in a moronic way for fun, or just some nonsense, right? So, you know, basically, a lot of it, or most of it, let's say 97 out of 100 'poems', didn't really have any meaningful content. And so I couldn't really be bothered to read them again. 

You know, at the end of the month, or a few weeks later, there's nothing there to read, they're empty. 

And then about three of them 3 of the 100, two or three of them every month. You know, were things where, you know, it was about my life in some or other sense, it was something real, it was something that I really wanted to say. 

And when I have things like that, it didn't make any difference whether I'd smoked marijuana or not. For example, you know, I might think of something I wanted to say, and then decide, Oh, well, I know what that is. I know what I want to say. But I'm going to say it tomorrow, you know, not now, because it's getting a bit late, and it's going to take me, it might take me all day, right, to say it, or something like that. Something like that. 

And then, you know, so basically, when I stopped smoking the marijuana, I made a lot less of the, you know, empty nonsense poems that are too boring to read ever again. But I didn't make any more of the poems with content, because it is life that generates content, and life goes on at the same pace whatever one smokes or not, so let's say I did 100 poems in a month, and I got three of them with some content, some few, being in a sense that I can remember. 

And then after I stopped smoking marijuana, I might only write 20 or something in a month, but I'll still only get like two or three again, where it's not empty, contentless garbage, you know, going through the motions. So basically, what I'm saying is that the smoking marijuana or not smoking marijuana had no effect on my output of real writing, really. It didn't make me say more or less true things. You know, my life went on, you know, regardless of whether I smoked marijuana, and it had the same amount of experience in it, that amounted to something memorable some real speech. So in other words, Marijuana (indulging or not indulging) had no effect on my output of meaningful things. That's the sense that I got after I stopped smoking.

So of course I am interested to hear of your experiences with substances and writing.
#2
Creativity under the influence of marijuana has been studied, and results are showing that THC has no impact on creativity in low doses, and can actually be a detriment to creativity in high doses, so it makes sense Tun's greatness is not a byproduct of cannabitic stupor.

*disclaimer* I can not promise these studies are not funded by the CIA, ISIS, or Donald Trump. It's possible this is all a conspiracy, and THC is the key to unlocking your true artistic potential.
Crit away
#3
If you do drugs and write about real life, then you might really wrote about doing drugs. Then, people may see you write about doing drugs and just chalk all your work, all of it, to drugs and not give it a chance because its already labeled. I asked my mom if she listened to the velvet underground growing up, she said, 'they were way too into doing drugs' maybe that was true I dont know,

I've written a lot about poop over the years because I think it's authentic to my personality
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#4
Since they told me I have diabetes, every year around Halloween, I spend a week eating nothing but junk food, and that makes me feel strange new ways. Also, I've been drinking tea day and night which seems to be affecting my short-term memory. When people talk to me, I often forget what they say before they finish talking. And while I've always spent hours in hypnagogic states, I now am in them much of the night. There's a pressure in my head, and my dreams are happening while my eyes are opened and I'm seeing the dark, and there are shapes and colors talking for hours at a time in languages I understand through sensations rather than words. I always have laid in bed when I wake up until all the voices and images stop, now, that can go on and on and on and on, if I don't get up.

There is a voice that is like listening to an audio book, and it can sing good and says all kinds of things more interesting than the people who talk to me when I go out and see people; for me, anyway.

The last few years, I keep a strict diet and exercise; and to make the holidays holy again, I eat madly only during that time of year. That way I enjoy food more, and I get to look forward to excess and fever dreams which are like interactive horror movies or simply fever dreams.
#5
Since they told me I have diabetes, every year around Halloween, I spend a week eating nothing but junk food, and that makes me feel strange new ways. Also, I've been drinking tea day and night which seems to be affecting my short-term memory. When people talk to me, I often forget what they say before they finish talking. And while I've always spent hours in hypnagogic states, I now am in them much of the night. There's a pressure in my head, and my dreams are happening while my eyes are opened and I'm seeing the dark, and there are shapes and colors talking for hours at a time in languages I understand through sensations rather than words. I always have laid in bed when I wake up until all the voices and images stop, now, that can go on and on and on and on, if I don't get up.

There is a voice that is like listening to an audio book, and it can sing good and says all kinds of things more interesting than the people who talk to me when I go out and see people; for me, anyway.

The last few years, I keep a strict diet and exercise; and to make the holidays holy again, I eat madly only during that time of year. That way I enjoy food more, and I get to look forward to excess and fever dreams which are like interactive horror movies or simply fever dreams.
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My inquiry was/is about the effect (or lack of such) of substances on writing practice, and I don’t see a clear reference to that in your reply. Could you clarify?
#6
(11-03-2025, 10:14 PM)tun Wrote:  You are performing identity here - not expressing any sense of what substances may mean in your experience in relation to your practice.
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--Quix
The Soufflé isn’t the soufflé; the soufflé is the recipe. --Clara 
#7
For me, the internet and other people are drugs as well as anything else, as taking drugs or exercising or talking to people or saying things out loud and typing them have neurobiological effects. So writing itself is a drug. Clicking between screens is a drug. This is also obvious in how many people who are neurotic are less so when they stop eating certain foods and start eating certain foods and stop using the internet in certain ways or listening to certain topics.

Thus, everything I'm doing and saying is affecting how and what I say and do things. You can say that I'm twisting the meaning of the topic and making it all about me. I'm telling you the substances I use, what substances mean to me. You can see what and how my practices are because I say it. I say it and you say that I'm talking about myself.

If you want to know some about practice. I work by correspondences, and this includes drugs and food. These things tend to have general effects, but people are always slightly different, so things affect them differently.  When I read what you write, you are a drug, and that goes for everything. Certain foods make certain things come about. Sensations, abilities. I take each food by how they are assumed to affect the different parts of the body, and I look at the symbolic correspondences across cultures, as well as how food is plants and animals and minerals, and so not only does ingesting substances affect the body-mind, but the symbolic nature of the substances and their correspondences affect the symbols and topics I write about.

Years ago I evoked a Djinn to whisper to married women about whether or not they might like to have an affair with me. Since this Djinn said that the risk was that it would whisper to who was most receptive, that ISawASpaceShip girl showed up and kept coming back to talk to me even when she got banned.


Now, I said all that to say this, which is what will interest you. For the last many years, as the year passes through the zodiac, I would perform a long and detailed ritual using extreme dedication and attention. That poem is called the Shem Operation. With the effects of all substances and operations, you accept the good with the bad.
#8
(11-03-2025, 10:31 PM)Quixilated Wrote:  
(11-03-2025, 10:14 PM)tun Wrote:  You are performing identity here - not expressing any sense of what substances may mean in your experience in relation to your practice.

Please read our rules.  Do not critique the comments is a rule that applies in every forum other than the sewer and the arse. 

Thank you
--Quix

I have edited it;
My inquiry was/is about the effect (or lack of such) of substances on writing practice, and I don’t see a clear reference to that in your reply. Could you clarify?
#9
(11-03-2025, 10:52 PM)rowens Wrote:  For me, the internet and other people are drugs as well as anything else, as taking drugs or exercising or talking to people or saying things out loud and typing them have neurobiological effects. So writing itself is a drug. Clicking between screens is a drug. This is also obvious in how many people who are neurotic are less so when they stop eating certain foods and start eating certain foods and stop using the internet in certain ways or listening to certain topics.

Thus, everything I'm doing and saying is affecting how and what I say and do things. You can say that I'm twisting the meaning of the topic and making it all about me. I'm telling you the substances I use, what substances mean to me. You can see what and how my practices are because I say it. I say it and you say that I'm talking about myself.

If you want to know some about practice. I work by correspondences, and this includes drugs and food. These things tend to have general effects, but people are always slightly different, so things affect them differently.  When I read what you write, you are a drug, and that goes for everything. Certain foods make certain things come about. Sensations, abilities. I take each food by how they are assumed to affect the different parts of the body, and I look at the symbolic correspondences across cultures, as well as how food is plants and animals and minerals, and so not only does ingesting substances affect the body-mind, but the symbolic nature of the substances and their correspondences affect the symbols and topics I write about.

Years ago I evoked a Djinn to whisper to married women about whether or not they might like to have an affair with me. Since this Djinn said that the risk was that it would whisper to who was most receptive, that ISawASpaceShip girl showed up and kept coming back to talk to me even when she got banned.


Now, I said all that to say this, which is what will interest you. For the last many years, as the year passes through the zodiac, I would perform a long and detailed ritual using extreme dedication and attention. That poem is called the Shem Operation. With the effects of all substances and operations, you accept the good with the bad.

Not sure what to make of this. I can’t see any clear reference to life or meaning, or any sense of how those things interact or emerge in the presence or absence of substances. As it stands, I find very little to hold on to or make sense of.




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