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Apart from anastrophe, which seems to have spoilt some folks' morning coffee, I see people trying to get their head around metre -as though it's a big mystery. As a simple man, and defender of the masses --I wonder if just remembering your own name might help?
I happen to know that Leanne is an iamb, by upbringing. Others are more straightforward:
Hippy is a trochee
So is Billy too
I think Milo likewise
What kind of foot are you?
Then a chap called Nicholas turned up -- he is one of a secret army of Dactyls, taking over the world: You cannot say Ni-COL-as, anymore than you can say Bil-LEE, or Mi-LO It has to be NI-col-as
Erthona has the makings of an amphibrach -and v handy too. That is er-THO-na.
I know an anapaest -- GabriELLE, but it's these Dactyls you have to watch out for: ER -i -ca, they are everywhere. CHRIS-to-pher'
Anyone? Is it helpful?
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Not to mention those damn PROT-est-ants and CATH-o-lics. Even JAC-ob-ites and PUR-i-tans.
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I'm at best a half foot in anyone's scheme - dale
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(05-12-2014, 04:47 AM)Erthona Wrote: I'm at best a half foot in anyone's scheme - dale
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Don't vex yourself, Dale. Average man is 13cm.
But it doesn't stop with names, as Le-ANNE just noted; or even religions. There is sport! She will have noted the trochaic similarity underpinning the Old Firm -- Rangers, and Celtic are as one! On the other hand, in proper football, you have ARSE-en-al and MAN-chester and LIV-er-pool. Three out of top four are dactyls! See? Taking over the world!
A few people of a spondaic bent creep about, but in sport, it makes a statement. ALL BLACKS; SPRING-BOKS WHITE SOX . As long as no fool starts prefixing with article or something.
I am onto something alright: a teaching -aid for millions. Yet my anastrophic judgment is challenged. For shame!
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While the Glasgow (ertswhile) derby may have names of a feather, the Manchester one is trochaic CI-ty versus amphibrachic u-NIT-ed -- fortunately, order is restored when it's LIV-er-pool versus EV-er-ton.
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Perhaps if still flummoxed, notwithstanding one's name, sport, and religion, one's address would help: trochaic PIC-ca-DIL-ly. Or favourite shops: ZA-ra -another trochee.
SAINS-bu-ry's Dactylic all the while! Hobbies and occupations : LAW-yer (trochee); WAN-ker (trochee).....surely that should stick.....
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05-12-2014, 09:18 AM
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what about politicians? while i don't know a trochee from a trachea i can help in picking out the nastards
that was meant btw, a co joining of nasty and bastards
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In that case how about tera dactyls?
Politicians are dictals!
dale the endothermic
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How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?
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I'm a dactyl, MARianne!  I feel special now. Even my middle name is one... ELoise... I'm a double dactyl!
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(05-12-2014, 10:42 AM)Mopkins Wrote: I'm a dactyl, MARianne! I feel special now. Even my middle name is one... ELoise... I'm a double dactyl!
I'm a dull old trochee IRL..ED-ward. My confirmation name is dactylic, but that doesn't really count.
Then there are days of the week. What better mnemonic than that? All except one are trochees -- then...dactylic Saturday!
Now, who else?
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Yes, I am: Chris-to-pher, 'kris-tə-fər
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MarCELla is an Amphibrach, but what is ELlaJAM?
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Sounds like a nice spread
for morning toast.
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lol, left a loaded gun lying there.
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(05-12-2014, 08:10 PM)ellajam Wrote: MarCELla is an Amphibrach, but what is ELlaJAM?
It is cretic; sorry about that. Somehow does not seem to have achieved the celebrity of the rest of the gang, though it seems quite common.
Congrats on your iambic pentameter there. I wonder if someone can knock out cretic pentameter?  4
EDIT, only won't: should have said iambic heptameter
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(05-13-2014, 02:29 AM)abu nuwas Wrote: (05-12-2014, 08:10 PM)ellajam Wrote: MarCELla is an Amphibrach, but what is ELlaJAM?
It is cretic; sorry about that. Somehow does not seem to have achieved the celebrity of the rest of the gang, though it seems quite common.
Congrats on your iambic pentameter there. I wonder if someone can knock out cretic pentameter? 
I thought I had some cretics but they're dactyls, words like "occupied" sound like they are stressed at the end, but I don't think the stress is equal to the first stress. What is it?
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(05-13-2014, 03:13 AM)ellajam Wrote: (05-13-2014, 02:29 AM)abu nuwas Wrote: (05-12-2014, 08:10 PM)ellajam Wrote: MarCELla is an Amphibrach, but what is ELlaJAM?
It is cretic; sorry about that. Somehow does not seem to have achieved the celebrity of the rest of the gang, though it seems quite common.
Congrats on your iambic pentameter there. I wonder if someone can knock out cretic pentameter? 
I thought I had some cretics but they're dactyls, words like "occupied" sound like they are stressed at the end, but I don't think the stress is equal to the first stress. What is it?
It's a dactyl, in my speech, but sufficiently wonky to be long/short. E.g.. if I write:
'The seat is occupied, my dear.' it slots meekly into a gang of iambs.
You can be a 'LA-di-DAH' cretin -I mean, cretic.
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I just found an example saying 'crocodile' is cretic, but the dictionary does not show the two accents, only the first.
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(05-12-2014, 03:21 AM)abu nuwas Wrote: ...
Anyone? Is it helpful? 
I'm an antibacchius.
'Helpful' has never been associated with any aspect of poetics; why start now?
A trochee is a trochee, fine,
that's all quite good and well;
But dibrach, iamb, spondee too?
Well fucking bloody hell.
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(05-13-2014, 04:48 AM)ChristopherSea Wrote: I just found an example saying 'crocodile' is cretic, but the dictionary does not show the two accents, only the first. 
Simply as it stands, to me, it is a dactyl. But if I repeat it, it becomes cretic: Crocodile crocodile... Even then, it is a bit like a fifth column dactyl...
.I think most sounds live in a kind of hierarchy, and have to, metaphorically, expose their rump when a more powerful gorilla-sound comes up.
I shall gladly give a tenner
To whomsoever writes an epic
Song of Hinayana ripples
And trochaic Ayrton Senna
Provided it is all in cretic
Yet mentions too, inverted nipples.
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