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Finally I can get out of the newly registered thing! I love this community and I enjoy all the things I am priveledged to read. So far this is the first place where anyone will actually put up wit my work so I thank everyone. Here is the latest thing I am working on. It is going to be musical at some point but I want to get the poetry and message through first. Its a bit of free verse to tell a story.
I did get a giggle that everyone posted suicide based poems after I did this, but I realllyy reallly want to know what you guys think,
A Long Way From Home
Mother please don't cry,
I was too young to go,
but this is what I need you to know.
There was nothing you could do,
Nothing anyone could see,
That pain inside me,
My confusing rage,
The haunting sorrows,
All the things that refused to end.
I don't know what put me up here,
I don't know what made me jump,
As I stand, I stare,
at the notches in the leather,
at the buckle made of brass,
and it shows my reflection
And I see my life in my expression,
Twelve years walking,
through this life,
I look around to see so little,
but I spy so much inside.
I see the joy when you look at me,
but you never tell me,
what I am to you,
or what you want me to do.
Mother I love you.
In all this time I discover,
that there is so little
in this world to understand.
But this isn't why I do it.
I see the other families,
with moms and dads,
and kids who are their center.
And I can't help but wonder,
why can't I be yours.
I'm sorry I hurt you,
and took away your chances.
I'm sorry I'm not perfect,
in good health, and happy.
But that isn't why I'm up here.
You told me stories
of a girl that could fly.
A girl, in love with life.
You told me all the things she did,
and all the love she'd give.
But you never told me,
why it had to end,
the minute you had a kid.
I'm up here,
standing on a stool.
Wondering why,
was my birth so cruel?
Maybe I should go,
and find another place.
discover my wings somewhere
I think of all your stories
and I repeat to myself,
that I am ready.
ready to fly with my
leather-brass wings.
To step of this cliff
into the pit of everything.
I fly away from you,
A long way from home,
and as I fall
I beg you not to cry,
I know it's not my time.
(in memory of Nathan, the wisest kid that nobody would give a chance)
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I'm sorry I'm commenting on my own thing I just want to see anybody's opinion on this one. Does anybody know how to bump something up without doing it like this?
I like where you are trying to go. I think it is a story worth telling. I like the part about seeing other families with children as their center and the kid wishing he had that too.
I also like where you are going with the memory of mom telling stories and having dreams and wondering why it had to change when she had a kid.
I like these parts because they are specific reasons, .. when a lot of the poem seems more vague. You tell me the kid had sorrow, but I'd rather feel his sorrow with more examples.
"I spy so much inside" so much what?
" I don't know what put me up here,
I don't know what made me jump," I'm not crazy about the fact that this line says I don't know what made me jump..past tense..as in "I already jumped" and the next line says "as I stand, I stare".. wait, I thought you already jumped? Maybe rephrase with something like I don't know what put me up here, or why I want to jump. /Why I need to jump.
I'm not sold on the image of "leather-brass" wings.
I feel like I only got a little of the story and I'm left without clearly knowing why he did what he did. But I want to.
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10-18-2013, 10:40 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-18-2013, 10:42 AM by Todd.)
Hi Ryan,
Here are some comments on your poem:
(10-16-2013, 02:07 AM)RyanRader13 Wrote: A Long Way From Home
Mother please don't cry,
I was too young to go,
but this is what I need you to know.
There was nothing you could do,
Nothing anyone could see,
That pain inside me,
My confusing rage,
The haunting sorrows,
All the things that refused to end.
--To this point you've given me a lot of words but not a lot of imagery. You're drowning in abstract concepts (pain, rage, sorrows, things) and filler most of the rest. You need to grab the reader much faster than this (first two lines). This meanders too much.
I don't know what put me up here,
I don't know what made me jump,--Yes, you do know. It's from the notches line to the end of the strophe. I think the lines I've bolded below can be reworked into something.
As I stand, I stare,
at the notches in the leather,
at the buckle made of brass,
and it shows my reflection
And I see my life in my expression,--I like the bolded lines and would perhaps salvage them in the rewrite
Twelve years walking,
through this life,
I look around to see so little,
but I spy so much inside.
I see the joy when you look at me,
but you never tell me,
what I am to you,
or what you want me to do.
Mother I love you.--all of this, could probably be cut.
In all this time I discover,
that there is so little
in this world to understand.
But this isn't why I do it.
I see the other families,
with moms and dads,
and kids who are their center.
And I can't help but wonder,
why can't I be yours.--This could be pared down a bit but the content is getting more at the heart of your poem
I'm sorry I hurt you,
and took away your chances.
I'm sorry I'm not perfect,
in good health, and happy.
But that isn't why I'm up here.--I think you say this better in the next strophe. You could cut all this
You told me stories
of a girl that could fly.
A girl, in love with life.--something that shows this rather than tells us
You told me all the things she did,--specifics, never this type of filler
and all the love she'd give.
But you never told me,
why it had to end,
the minute you had a kid.--These last three lines and a reworking of this strophe is probably what you should consider either leading with or ending the poem with.
I'm up here,
standing on a stool.
Wondering why,
was my birth so cruel?
Maybe I should go,
and find another place.
discover my wings somewhere
I think of all your stories
and I repeat to myself,
that I am ready.
ready to fly with my
leather-brass wings.
To step of this cliff
into the pit of everything.
I fly away from you,
A long way from home,
and as I fall
I beg you not to cry,
I know it's not my time.--Condense these last three strophes into one and see where that takes you.
(in memory of Nathan, the wisest kid that nobody would give a chance)
Just thoughts to consider.
Best,
Todd
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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(10-18-2013, 10:40 AM)Todd Wrote: Hi Ryan,
Here are some comments on your poem:
(10-16-2013, 02:07 AM)RyanRader13 Wrote: A Long Way From Home
Mother please don't cry,
I was too young to go,
but this is what I need you to know.
There was nothing you could do,
Nothing anyone could see,
That pain inside me,
My confusing rage,
The haunting sorrows,
All the things that refused to end.
--To this point you've given me a lot of words but not a lot of imagery. You're drowning in abstract concepts (pain, rage, sorrows, things) and filler most of the rest. You need to grab the reader much faster than this (first two lines). This meanders too much.
I don't know what put me up here,
I don't know what made me jump,--Yes, you do know. It's from the notches line to the end of the strophe. I think the lines I've bolded below can be reworked into something.
As I stand, I stare,
at the notches in the leather,
at the buckle made of brass,
and it shows my reflection
And I see my life in my expression,--I like the bolded lines and would perhaps salvage them in the rewrite
Twelve years walking,
through this life,
I look around to see so little,
but I spy so much inside.
I see the joy when you look at me,
but you never tell me,
what I am to you,
or what you want me to do.
Mother I love you.--all of this, could probably be cut.
In all this time I discover,
that there is so little
in this world to understand.
But this isn't why I do it.
I see the other families,
with moms and dads,
and kids who are their center.
And I can't help but wonder,
why can't I be yours.--This could be pared down a bit but the content is getting more at the heart of your poem
I'm sorry I hurt you,
and took away your chances.
I'm sorry I'm not perfect,
in good health, and happy.
But that isn't why I'm up here.--I think you say this better in the next strophe. You could cut all this
You told me stories
of a girl that could fly.
A girl, in love with life.--something that shows this rather than tells us
You told me all the things she did,--specifics, never this type of filler
and all the love she'd give.
But you never told me,
why it had to end,
the minute you had a kid.--These last three lines and a reworking of this strophe is probably what you should consider either leading with or ending the poem with.
I'm up here,
standing on a stool.
Wondering why,
was my birth so cruel?
Maybe I should go,
and find another place.
discover my wings somewhere
I think of all your stories
and I repeat to myself,
that I am ready.
ready to fly with my
leather-brass wings.
To step of this cliff
into the pit of everything.
I fly away from you,
A long way from home,
and as I fall
I beg you not to cry,
I know it's not my time.--Condense these last three strophes into one and see where that takes you.
(in memory of Nathan, the wisest kid that nobody would give a chance)
Just thoughts to consider.
Best,
Todd Hi ryan,
I am not given to foreshortened crit...I think deserving poets deserve pensive crit ( and, of course, vice versa) but here I am totally with todd on all points.
Veracity verse is damned hard to crit without offense...and the longer the submission, the more opportunities to stilleto the piece.So I will add not a lot. My overwhelming advice would be to cut this down. Overstretched "personal" tributes are not as effective as short, sharp, clear, heartfelt prose. After all, the person to whom you are aiming your words would understand a great deal from very little.
Best,
tectak
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I'm glad I got so much response here, I appreciate the input. I definitely agree it should be shorter and this was more of a need to puke out everything in my head on the subject to see where to focus, I want to build a real piece of of the 'keep pile' from in here. The biggest things i wanted to convey is the stress and confusion and that feeeling of a short life flashing before his eyes. I want the reader to feel the pain the boy went through and the confusion he had to barrage the reader to feel the turmoil. I honestly agree it lacked imagery and needed more specifics, there was too much redundancy and much of it was written to be expendable. I'm happy to say thank you to everyone for feeling out the major issues here and giving me good tips I'll edit and repost soon.
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(10-22-2013, 01:42 AM)RyanRader13 Wrote: I'm glad I got so much response here, I appreciate the input. I definitely agree it should be shorter and this was more of a need to puke out everything in my head on the subject to see where to focus, I want to build a real piece of of the 'keep pile' from in here. The biggest things i wanted to convey is the stress and confusion and that feeeling of a short life flashing before his eyes. I want the reader to feel the pain the boy went through and the confusion he had to barrage the reader to feel the turmoil. I honestly agree it lacked imagery and needed more specifics, there was too much redundancy and much of it was written to be expendable. I'm happy to say thank you to everyone for feeling out the major issues here and giving me good tips I'll edit and repost soon. Good egg,
tectak
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